Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Yossarian]

Far-right US broadcasters have been losing their minds over Biden's visit to Ukraine



Zelenskyy himself is a very dark force. That is obvious if you watch him. It is unmistakable. Who could not see that? This man is a destroyer. He banned a Christian faith in his country and arrested nuns and priests. Oh, but he's a hero, claim our leaders from Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell. No, Zelenskyy is not a hero. He is an instrument of total destruction. That is not a defense of his enemies. It's just true and maybe that's why Joe Biden is drawn to him.

 

[teqniq]

Does Tucker Carlson actually believe the shit he comes out with?

 

[Yossarian]

If the whole Russia thing doesn't work out Putin could probably get a show on Fox

 

[strung out]

Zelenskyy himself is a very dark force. That is obvious if you watch him. It is unmistakable. Who could not see that? This man is a destroyer. He banned a Christian faith in his country and arrested nuns and priests. Oh, but he's a hero, claim our leaders from Chuck Schumer to Mitch McConnell. No, Zelenskyy is not a hero. He is an instrument of total destruction. That is not a defense of his enemies. It's just true and maybe that's why Joe Biden is drawn to him.

Could have come from our very own Topcat.

 

[_Russ_]

Does Tucker Carlson actually believe the shit he comes out with?

I'm not sure but as batshit crazy as it sounds shitloads as in all the millions of loons who still want Trump as prez probably believe Tucker is telling it as it is

 

[not-bono-ever]

Purity of essence

 

[Supine]

Could have come from our very own Topcat.

Obviously both read the same Moscow briefing notes

 

[Artaxerxes]

Putin awarded the AA brigade that shot down MH-17 a shiny medal today.

Putin awards honorary Guards title to anti-aircraft missile brigade that supplied the Buk that shot down Flight MH-17

Russian president Vladimir Putin awarded the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade the honorary title “Guards” for “mass heroism and valor, endurance, and courage shown by the personnel of the brigade in combat actions to defend the Fatherland”

theins.ru

 

[TopCat]

Putin awarded the AA brigade that shot down MH-17 a shiny medal today.

Putin awards honorary Guards title to anti-aircraft missile brigade that supplied the Buk that shot down Flight MH-17

Russian president Vladimir Putin awarded the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade the honorary title “Guards” for “mass heroism and valor, endurance, and courage shown by the personnel of the brigade in combat actions to defend the Fatherland”

theins.ru

Who reported that?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Who reported that?

Not speaking Russian you can check out the government portal if you do.

The decree has been published on the Russian government's official legal portal.

 

[TopCat]

I see no mention of MH-17. (I don't speak Russian). Did this lot definitely do it?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Your welcome to quote Russia Today if you like TC, we all like a giggle.

 

[ska invita]

Will watch the speech itself later.

seriously, why?

 

[TopCat]

Could have come from our very own Topcat.

You have been here for a long while, same as me. Break down what could have come from me. Defending nuns and priests etc. It's just bullshit and you know it. Pile on idiot. Your call out contribution really marked you as an grimy arsehole in my book. Put me on ignore, it might be best all around.

 

[TopCat]

seriously, why?

I watched Biden highlights, he was going to send a "message"; got to be worth watching Putin as well for general knowledge. Hoping for a brief summary on RT.

 

[TopCat]

Your welcome to quote Russia Today if you like TC, we all like a giggle.

The thread would get worse than now.

 

[ska invita]

I think you have to read the propaganda from all sides, sift it, apply historical knowledge and decide which seems mostly true whilst knowing all sides in this war lie their teeth off.

the truth is in what they do, not in the crumbs of what they say

 

[Artaxerxes]

I see no mention of MH-17. (I don't speak Russian). Did this lot definitely do it?

I'd link you to the Bellingcat report mentioned in the article I posted originally but you'd probably dismiss it.

Maybe the plane just did that?

 

[TopCat]

I'm watching the Putin speech, if the translation is right it's bonkers Bruno.

 

[TopCat]

I'd link you to the Bellingcat report mentioned in the article I posted originally but you'd probably dismiss it.

Maybe the plane just did that?

Link it, I will read it.

 

[agricola]

Does Tucker Carlson actually believe the shit he comes out with?

I think the legal position of Fox News (and possibly Tucker) in that Dominion trial is that no, he doesn't, he is just an entertainer.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I'm not doing your homework for you.

 

[agricola]

Putin awarded the AA brigade that shot down MH-17 a shiny medal today.

Putin awards honorary Guards title to anti-aircraft missile brigade that supplied the Buk that shot down Flight MH-17

Russian president Vladimir Putin awarded the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade the honorary title “Guards” for “mass heroism and valor, endurance, and courage shown by the personnel of the brigade in combat actions to defend the Fatherland”

theins.ru

forgive the whataboutery but I thought the USS Vincennes got one after shooting down Flight 655

 

[two sheds]

yes that incident did come to mind

 

[Artaxerxes]

forgive the whataboutery but I thought the USS Vincennes got one after shooting down Flight 655

I was 6 years old, I have no fucking idea.

 

[nogojones]

If the whole Russia thing doesn't work out Putin could probably get a show on Fox

The culture war gets some tanks

 

[Artaxerxes]

Apparently not but again, thats hell of a whataboutary considering its 30 years ago, involving two different countries.

Is it true that the USA gave the medals to the crew of its naval ship that shot down Iran Air resulting in the death of 290 passengers?

Answer (1 of 2): The Captain of the ship was awarded the Legion of Merit decoration "for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service as commanding officer”. The award made no mention of shooting down the airliner. William C. Rogers III - Wikipedia The crew were aw...

www.quora.com

 

[TopCat]

I'm not doing your homework for you.

That's out of someone else's playbook and doesn't really fit here?

 

[TopCat]

I was 6 years old, I have no fucking idea.

Do some homework?

 

[Artaxerxes]

That's out of someone else's playbook and doesn't really fit here?

All the details are on the task in front of you.