Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

[Elpenor]

So depressing that I'll soon be adding another year to the thread title.

One positive is that support for this war within Western Europe is plummeting according to polling released today, so the belligerents will be at the negotiating table sooner rather than later. Hopefully sooner; in order to save lives.

So you may not be repeating this post in a years time.

Support for Ukraine ‘until it wins’ falls sharply in western Europe, poll finds

YouGov survey finds negotiated end to war with Russia is preferred option in four out of seven countries

www.theguardian.com

 

[editor]

One positive is that support for this war within Western Europe is plummeting according to polling released today, so the belligerents will be at the negotiating table sooner rather than later. Hopefully sooner; in order to save lives.

So you may not be repeating this post in a years time.

Support for Ukraine ‘until it wins’ falls sharply in western Europe, poll finds

YouGov survey finds negotiated end to war with Russia is preferred option in four out of seven countries

www.theguardian.com

Until Russia starts another invasion...

 

[Silas Loom]

Until Russia starts another invasion...

Also a bit shit in the meantime for Ukrainians living under occupation and perhaps hoping for the return of their stolen children.

 

[Ax^]

Russia launches major Christmas Day attack on Ukraine’s energy system

I wonder who condemn the Ukraine for returning the favour on the 7th Jan

 

[Riklet]

Looking increasingly likely that it was Russia that shot down the Azerbaijan Airlines flight yesterday morning, killing 38 people.

Yep. Fucking bastards, once again...

Looks like there was an alert for Ukranian drones in Grozny, Chechnia and while flying over the plane was engaged by an anti-aircraft battery and likely damaged by a SAM or similar. Evidence of shrapnel damage before and after the crash.

Pretty miraculously half the plane survived, but only in the tail section.

 

[StoneRoad]

wrong thread

 

[dilute micro]

One positive is that support for this war within Western Europe is plummeting according to polling released today, so the belligerents will be at the negotiating table sooner rather than later. Hopefully sooner; in order to save lives.

So you may not be repeating this post in a years time.

Support for Ukraine ‘until it wins’ falls sharply in western Europe, poll finds

YouGov survey finds negotiated end to war with Russia is preferred option in four out of seven countries

www.theguardian.com

Just pressing the pause button.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yep. Fucking bastards, once again...

Looks like there was an alert for Ukranian drones in Grozny, Chechnia and while flying over the plane was engaged by an anti-aircraft battery and likely damaged by a SAM or similar. Evidence of shrapnel damage before and after the crash.

Pretty miraculously half the plane survived, but only in the tail section.

Russia warns against 'hypotheses' in Azerbaijan Airlines crash

The Russia-bound passenger plane went down in Kazakhstan with the loss of 38 lives.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yet...

Shortly after the crash, reports from Russian state-controlled TV said the most likely cause was a strike from a flock of birds.

The Kremlin wants to wait for an official report in a few years' time.

Usual shit from them cunts, having sent a SAM to damage the plane, Russian flight controllers ordered it to fly across the Caspian Sea to Kazakhstan, presumably in the hope that it would crash in to the sea, making any investigation so much harder to pin on the Russians.

 

[The39thStep]

Yep. Fucking bastards, once again...

Looks like there was an alert for Ukranian drones in Grozny, Chechnia and while flying over the plane was engaged by an anti-aircraft battery and likely damaged by a SAM or similar. Evidence of shrapnel damage before and after the crash.

Pretty miraculously half the plane survived, but only in the tail section.

Isn't the tail section the part of the plane that's more likely to survive in a crash, albeit small odds wise likely?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Isn't the tail section the part of the plane that's more likely to survive in a crash, albeit small odds wise likely?

Yes. was talking about this at lunch just yesterday, it is a real thing, but the chances are so small that I'll risk sitting in first class, ta very much. Although this latest one will move the odds further towards the cheap seats.