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Ukraine and the Russian invasion, 2022-24

Good ad for the brand in a way, as looks like you might still ride it away.

You have to admire the Ukrainian style with this though. They charged him on Monday and blew him up on Tuesday. Makes you wonder if Craig David was involved.

What Ukraine should do now is charge a load of other Russian Generals in absentia and have them all shitting themselves for the foreseeable.

Merry Christmas!
 
You have to admire the Ukrainian style with this though. They charged him on Monday and blew him up on Tuesday. Makes you wonder if Craig David was involved.

What Ukraine should do now is charge a load of other Russian Generals in absentia and have them all shitting themselves for the foreseeable.

Merry Christmas!
You used to think other actors who've played bond were international guns for hire but got really confused about Sean connery after you heard of red October and told me you thought he was some sort of mole
 
"according to a senior US military official"

Are you suggesting that senior US military officials wouldn't be as aware of what's going on in Ukraine as the Ukrainian military?

Does the fact that the info is coming from the US mean we should treat it differently to if it was coming from a different source?
 
Are you suggesting that senior US military officials wouldn't be as aware of what's going on in Ukraine as the Ukrainian military?

Does the fact that the info is coming from the US mean we should treat it differently to if it was coming from a different source?
Of course not, I would never question the veracity or morals of our beloved allies. Who do you take me for?
 
It should still be evaluated for source and probability

So, of course, should all such reports of casualties.

Of course not, I would never question the veracity or morals of our beloved allies. Who do you take me for?

So what are you actually suggesting?

You may have a perfectly valid point, but if you choose to make it in such a cryptic manner, no one really knows what the fuck you're talking about.
 
So, of course, should all such reports of casualties.



So what are you actually suggesting?

You may have a perfectly valid point, but if you choose to make it in such a cryptic manner, no one really knows what the fuck you're talking about.
I have very little trust in the US and the US military in particular. They have historically a particularly poor relationship with the truth and with morality.

You are free to disagree of course.
 
So seems this whole NK troops thing is now just a propaganda battle.... Their existence presumably designed to intimidate Ukraine into feeling outnumbered. The claims and counterclaims a weird propaganda front line .
I think it's basically irrelevant, other than an example of how Russia has successfully made wider allegiances
Successfully made wider alliances with North fucking Korea. The words most isolated state.
 
So seems this whole NK troops thing is now just a propaganda battle.... Their existence presumably designed to intimidate Ukraine into feeling outnumbered. The claims and counterclaims a weird propaganda front line .
I think it's basically irrelevant, other than an example of how Russia has successfully made wider allegiances

The idea is for Ukraine to convince their allies that Russia is involving troops from another state's army in this war, which would be a clear and massive escalation, thereby, hopefully prompting said allies to offer greater assistance.
 
The idea is for Ukraine to convince their allies that Russia is involving troops from another state's army in this war, which would be a clear and massive escalation, thereby, hopefully prompting said allies to offer greater assistance.
Iirc Russia has been very open that NK troops are involved, though the one report I've read that I really trust, verbatim from UKR troops, is that they've seen no sign of heard no chatter.
It's all a bit farcical.
 
I have very little trust in the US and the US military in particular. They have historically a particularly poor relationship with the truth and with morality.

You are free to disagree of course.
The Ukranian, British, DPKR, and Russian armies have an equally poor relationship with the truth and with morality.
 
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The Ukranian, British, DPKR, and Russian armies have an equally poor relationship with the truth and with morality.


All armies must have a poor relationship with the truth they put out and their morality when it comes to killing and subjugating people must be very poor. That is kind of the point of them.
 
The idea is for Ukraine to convince their allies that Russia is involving troops from another state's army in this war, which would be a clear and massive escalation, thereby, hopefully prompting said allies to offer greater assistance.

And the very next day...

UK considers sending troops to train Ukrainians


The Ministry of Defence is considering the possibility of sending British troops to Ukraine to help train that country's armed forces. Defence Secretary John Healey has been in the capital Kyiv to discuss plans to provide more support to Ukraine in the coming year. At the moment, Britain has been training Ukrainian troops in the UK. There is also a small team of British Army medics providing training inside Ukraine. The UK and other Nato members have not sent troops to Ukraine or enforced a no-fly zone over the country, for fear of being pulled into a direct conflict with Russia. However, individual members have supplied arms and equipment.
 
Iirc Russia has been very open that NK troops are involved, though the one report I've read that I really trust, verbatim from UKR troops, is that they've seen no sign of heard no chatter.
It's all a bit farcical.
NK agreed some sort of mutual defence pact with Russia. I think this limits their engagement to fighting on Russian soil only, so supposedly deployed in the Kursk area where Ukraine has an incursion on Russian land. I think physically entering Ukrainian territory (even the bits Russia now claims are theirs) is a step beyond this so might not have happened.

I suspect they might also be used elsewhere on Russian land to support the main invasion through stuff like logistics support and air defence. Rumours of use elsewhere might be (as speculated by others on this thread) just an attempt to claim escalation and raise the level of support from western allies.
 
In 1910 when planning for the inevitable European war British General Wilson asked French General Fochs “What is the smallest British military force that would be of any practical assistance to you?”

Fochs replied “A single British soldier—and we will see to it that he is killed.”
 
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