Really? This gets slipped in a lot as if it were self-evidently true. Just migration for the rich and educated, then? That's ok, I presume, as nobody is proposing that that should be stopped. Just poor people. They're the ones whose migration is 'wrong'?
Statements that basically say 'fuck the poor'. If you want to 'control worker migration', that's what you're proposing.
Holy shit, you really don't get even the basics. I have to say, on so many issues this board is lke the land that time forgot.
Like I said in my post, I know it’s not necessarily caused by immigration. You could have a 20% increase in population since our parents were born and still have enough services, if there was a greater than 20% investment in more services. But that quite clearly isn’t what’s happened.
Exactly right; evidence is clear now that worker migration/immigration has served to increase shareholder and ownership profits, largely through the mechanism of depressing unskilled and semi skilled pay. i.e Exactly as intended - while being sold to the masses as happy-clappy, we-are-the-world multiculturalism. And your middle-class, metropolitan liberal Londoners loved it.
the value of the pound in the last 34 years let alone since our parents were born has plummeted so your 20% investment in services to meet a 20% increase in population is i regret nonsense
Said better than me, ta.
Not at all, actually. I thought yours was much clearer than mine. I only repeated your point to agree and show that agreement, not because I thought there was anything wrong whatsoever with the way you said it.
I did and I've already posted up a link to some research on the topic. Perhaps you missed that in your eagerness to sound like a patronising prick.
Ah right. So you get called up on something and that's your cue to slag off the entire board? Nice work.
have you your evidence to hand?
Yes! I got into an argument on fb the other day for saying words to the effect in response to this bollocks tweet (versions of which I've seen since I was a kid). It seems to me that there's two different conversations going on (at least) about this, and people are just talking past each other. very frustrating...
More or less total rubbish. And offensively so given the contribution low-paid, often low-skilled immigrants of exactly the kind that it is proposed to restrict have made to this country over the last few decades. You've also bought the lie, I see, that immigration is the driver of constraints on public services. Offensively wrong.
your evidence, if you please.
How do you not know this stuff -go and google the IFS or the ONS.
Keep out the poor and unskilled. Then we can have decent hospitals and schools!
Immigration is of course a driver of constraint in services if it is not accommodated by an expansion in those services. That’s just trivially obvious.
i want to see your clear evidence for your claim. unless you don't have any of your actual evidence of course.
Not true if the immigrants are working in those services.
Then your contention is that without those immigrant workers, the services would have to have shrunk simply from a lack of people to employ?
The key to understanding both Geldof and Bono is that they grew up in an era when Ireland was almost, but not quite, a developed country. As for the rise of mass British emigration, I think you may be right - but where would they go to? Oz and NZ are hard to get into, South Africa and Zimbabwe have their various issues, the USA is going to have certain issues of its own very shortly - that basically leaves Canada. And Ireland.
What is the matter with you - NHS nurses have had £500 pay rise in total since 2010. Are you so blind you can't join up the simplest of dots.
show me the dots
You think the tories being cunts is the fault of immigration? You think this austerity shit is the fault of immigration? Fuck me.
