UK captains of industry have charity night where they sexually assault young female 'hostesses'

[trashpony]

The idea of doing away with grid girls etc is to stop men from objectivising women and change mes attitudes to women right? But that's going to continue whether we like it or not. I'm not even convinced there's anything wrong with sexual objectification. Other societies restrict womens working choices and choice of clothing far more than we do yet the men don't objectify women any less. Some would say men from restrictive societies are worse.

I think all that's happening here is that we're doing women out of lucrative work.

Thin end of the wedge and all that stuff, the prudery will continue.

As a woman, I find it humiliating and excluding to see grid 'girls' and walk on 'girls'. Makes it very clear that my role is about decoration, and that I shouldn't be watching this or participating as this is a sport for MEN.

And isn't it funny how adult women are referred to as 'girls' when they're objects of sexual desire for men?

 

[Spymaster]

This is fascinating! Why on earth are they all Saffas? (Other blonde Jezebels are available from other nations). Gupta connection maybe?

They're about 90% South African and Australian with a handful of Brits and other Europeans.

 

[Teaboy]

That's probably one of smallest costs involved in F1, tbf.

Look after the pennies spy

 

[Sasaferrato]

“You can’t change things so why even bother trying?”

Who though, is the arbiter of what should change? My wife, a woman, commented last night that she is fed up to the back teeth with our current ethos of 'Neo-puritanism'. It was with regards to the darts events dropping the walk on girls. Her comment was that the girls are now unemployed, for no good reason. I agree with her. the whole thing is becoming a large bag of bollocks.

 

[Teaboy]

The idea of doing away with grid girls etc is to stop men from objectivising women and change mes attitudes to women right? But that's going to continue whether we like it or not. I'm not even convinced there's anything wrong with sexual objectification. Other societies restrict womens working choices and choice of clothing far more than we do yet the men don't objectify women any less. Some would say men from restrictive societies are worse.

I think all that's happening here is that we're doing women out of lucrative work.

Thin end of the wedge and all that stuff, the prudery will continue.

Man says equality achieved and no longer any need for feminism. Oh well, that's that then, it was good while it lasted.

 

[elbows]

As a woman, I find it humiliating and excluding to see grid 'girls' and walk on 'girls'. Makes it very clear that my role is about decoration, and that I shouldn't be watching this or participating as this is a sport for MEN.

And isn't it funny how adult women are referred to as 'girls' when they're objects of sexual desire for men?

And most of the people moaning about the changes seem to be men, another non-surprise there.

I think the BBC did a poll when the F1 change was mooted but not yet confirmed, and it was about 60% who said they wanted to keep this shit. I'm very glad they have been ignored.

 

[kabbes]

Who though, is the arbiter of what should change? My wife, a woman, commented last night that she is fed up to the back teeth with our current ethos of 'Neo-puritanism'. It was with regards to the darts events dropping the walk on girls. Her comment was that the girls are now unemployed, for no good reason. I agree with her. the whole thing is becoming a large bag of bollocks.

"No good reason", eh? What about this reason?

As a woman, I find it humiliating and excluding to see grid 'girls' and walk on 'girls'. Makes it very clear that my role is about decoration, and that I shouldn't be watching this or participating as this is a sport for MEN.

 

[Teaboy]

Who though, is the arbiter of what should change.

In this case the people who own F1 and run the darts. Who are you to tell them otherwise? I thought you were some sort of capitalist?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

And most of the people moaning about the changes seem to be men, another non-surprise there.

http://newsthump.com/2018/02/01/man...hen-the-job-involves-shiny-skintight-dresses/

 

[elbows]

Who though, is the arbiter of what should change? My wife, a woman, commented last night that she is fed up to the back teeth with our current ethos of 'Neo-puritanism'. It was with regards to the darts events dropping the walk on girls. Her comment was that the girls are now unemployed, for no good reason. I agree with her. the whole thing is becoming a large bag of bollocks.

People are often fed up when things they have been totally used to throughout their lives change in ways they dont recognise or appreciate.

Tough shit really, my primary interest in these changes involves the women of tomorrow and the dodgy messages we give them as they grow up.

 

[Pickman's model]

People are often fed up when things they have been totally used to throughout their lives change in ways they dont recognise or appreciate.

Tough shit really, my primary interest in these changes involves the women of tomorrow and the dodgy messages we give them as they grow up.

yeh that they're not to be seen for example

 

[agricola]

People are often fed up when things they have been totally used to throughout their lives change in ways they dont recognise or appreciate.

Tough shit really, my primary interest in these changes involves the women of tomorrow and the dodgy messages we give them as they grow up.

What message is this sending, though? Billionaire capitalists might find it more trouble than you are worth to employ you to stand next to F1 cars or fat blokes, because of things on Twitter that were only tangenitally related to this?

 

[Sasaferrato]

People are often fed up when things they have been totally used to throughout their lives change in ways they dont recognise or appreciate.

Tough shit really, my primary interest in these changes involves the women of tomorrow and the dodgy messages we give them as they grow up.

This reply is wrong on every level.

I will limit my reply to the specific I mentioned. The darts walk on girls did so of their own volition, they did so because it was an easy way to make a living. Because of the decision by some neo-puritanical arsehole, they are unemployed. Do you think that they will be giving thanks for their emancipation? They would probably rip your balls off, had it been your decision.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What message is this sending, though? Billionaire capitalists might find it more trouble than you are worth to employ you to stand next to F1 cars or fat blokes, because of things on Twitter that were only tangenitally related to this?

It's more to do with the message that they will no longer be sending from this point on. Boys, you can dream of being an F1 driver or, er, a darts player. Girls, practise walking and smiling at the same time and looking nice, cos that's all you're good for.

 

[Sasaferrato]

As a woman, I find it humiliating and excluding to see grid 'girls' and walk on 'girls'. Makes it very clear that my role is about decoration, and that I shouldn't be watching this or participating as this is a sport for MEN.

And isn't it funny how adult women are referred to as 'girls' when they're objects of sexual desire for men?

Tough shit basically, it was their choice of employment, and who are you to deny them that?

 

[Pickman's model]

This reply is wrong on every level.

I will limit my reply to the specific I mentioned. The darts walk on girls did so of their own volition, they did so because it was an easy way to make a living. Because of the decision by some neo-puritanical arsehole, they are unemployed. Do you think that they will be giving thanks for their emancipation? They would probably rip your balls off, had it been your decision.

yeh, i asked above but no one's saying these decisions are being made at the behest of women, which i find surprising - it's men removing women from the publick sphere.

 

[elbows]

If you dont get it by this stage, I doubt anything I can say will sound particularly convincing.

Carry On bleating.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's more to do with the message that they will no longer be sending from this point on. Boys, you can dream of being an F1 driver or, er, a darts player. Girls, practise walking and smiling at the same time and looking nice, cos that's all you're good for.

the message they're really sending is 'if it benefits our business model we'll get rid of you'

 

[Teaboy]

This reply is wrong on every level.

I will limit my reply to the specific I mentioned. The darts walk on girls did so of their own volition, they did so because it was an easy way to make a living. Because of the decision by some neo-puritanical arsehole, they are unemployed. Do you think that they will be giving thanks for their emancipation? They would probably rip your balls off, had it been your decision.

Sas. How many darts events constitute a season? 8? 10? I'm pretty sure they have other work than for a couple of hours 8 times a year. Anyway given the nature of their job it can only be done for a couple of years anyway as then they're too old. I don't think this legitimate decision by organisers is going to have a bit hit on the next government employment figures.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you dont get it by this stage, I doubt anything I can say will sound particularly convincing.

Carry On bleating.

oh, i entirely understand the rationale you think's in play. i just disagree with it.

 

[Sasaferrato]

It's more to do with the message that they will no longer be sending from this point on. Boys, you can dream of being an F1 driver or, er, a darts player. Girls, practise walking and smiling at the same time and looking nice, cos that's all you're good for.

If someone would pay me a wage to dress skimpily (the darts girls didn't, they were in evening dresses), smile prettily and escort someone onto a stage, I would bite their bloody hand off. The likelihood of someone doing so is beyond microscopic, but I'm available.

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyway given the nature of their job it can only be done for a couple of years anyway as then their too old.

oh dear. oh dear oh dear oh dear.

 

[Pickman's model]

If someone would pay me a wage to dress skimpily (the darts girls didn't, they were in evening dresses), smile prettily and escort someone onto a stage, I would bite their bloody hand off. The likelihood of someone doing so is beyond microscopic, but I'm available.

i suspect that at the moment of assault you would lose the job.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

the message they're really sending is 'if it benefits our business model we'll get rid of you'

That is the reason they are doing it. Not the same thing as the message they were sending up to now but will not be sending from now on. Could say exactly the same thing about the demise of the page 3 topless models, who were also paid well for a not-too-hard job that they may have been glad to have.

 

[Poot]

Who though, is the arbiter of what should change? My wife, a woman, commented last night that she is fed up to the back teeth with our current ethos of 'Neo-puritanism'. It was with regards to the darts events dropping the walk on girls. Her comment was that the girls are now unemployed, for no good reason. I agree with her. the whole thing is becoming a large bag of bollocks.

And does your wife speak for all women? Do you speak for all men? Or do others have other experiences that are equally as valid?

 

[Sasaferrato]

If you dont get it by this stage, I doubt anything I can say will sound particularly convincing.

Carry On bleating.

Pathetic. Try harder.

 

[Teaboy]

oh dear. oh dear oh dear oh dear.

Well its true though isn't it? All these people fighting for the rights of the women less they become unemployed. I don't give much of a shit anyway but if someone is going to defend it at least defend it for what it is.

 

[Pickman's model]

That is the reason they are doing it. Not the same thing as the message they were sending up to now but will not be sending from now on. Could say exactly the same thing about the demise of the page 3 topless models, who were also paid well for a not-too-hard job that they may have been glad to have.

i'm glad you're replying to me now, i'll be glad while it lasts.

i don't think the two are really equivalent and am surprised you appear to.

 

[Pickman's model]

Well its true though isn't it? All these people fighting for the rights of the women less they become unemployed. I don't give much of a shit anyway but if someone is going to defend it at least defend it for what it is.

a couple of years? you're having a laugh.

 

[Sasaferrato]

And does your wife speak for all women? Do you speak for all men? Or do others have other experiences that are equally as valid?

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