UK captains of industry have charity night where they sexually assault young female 'hostesses'

[yield]

Well, I've never read the FT, but will accept your implication that it isn't worth reading.

It's actually a pretty good read in the the "telling truth to power" kind of way. What the capitalists want or expect to hear. That and the Economist.

Pearson sold it to Nikkei in 2015. It's gotten a lot thinner the last few years. But their attempts at investigative journalism have borne fruit already.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

FWIW there is at least one report that they did hire (edit: sorry - the report actually says they were present, albeit in matching garb) prostitutes/escorts for the afterparty, but had them wear red dresses rather than black.

Ugh.

Much in the same manner as the Handmaids in The Handmaid’s Tale had to wear a red dress to signify their station.

 

[elbows]

Somehow I managed to read this thread without learning that Walliams presented the event for three years in a row! Did I fail to spot that bit in the thread or is this factoid not well known, or so well known it didnt need a mention?

David Walliams withdraws Presidents Club lot as bookshops drop his titles

 

[Lord Camomile]

He also said he left at 11:30pm, while the article said:

At 10pm last Thursday night, Jonny Gould took to the stage in the ballroom at London’s Dorchester Hotel. “Welcome to the most un-PC event of the year,” he roared.

But he had no idea...

<edit: just to clarify, I'm aware it the quote isn't from Walliams, but it's a fair bet he heard the remark>

 

[likesfish]

you want a sleazy men-only event crack on don't hire hostesses under false colours and don't claim its ok as it's for charity.
littlejohn was claiming the sick kiddies are the real losers.

what is next trophy hunting poachers for charity?
sponsored drone strikes for help the heroes?*


great Ormond street and other charities don't want to take money off people who have raised it under circumstances which most normal people would consider dubious*


*personally having rich fuckwits pay to push the button to targeted kill jihadis by drone strike would be a fitting end to said jihadists but i'm a sick fuck

 

[Badgers]

 

[Doctor Carrot]

I should imagined that the FT have done themselves no favours as far as their advertising take goes, they have offended a lot of very powerful people.

Yeah I expect they'll get some flak for it from advertisers for a bit. I'm genuinely surprised a paper like FT ran such a story. Great piece of journalism though. Not only did it expose such a thing it exposed something that any person with even a whiff of intelligence has known to be true for decades and it did it at the perfect opportunity given the background of current sexual abuse cases in Hollywood, abuse in sport and so on.

 

[trashpony]

Giles Coren is one of the very few people I fervently wish would suffer a long and painful illness

 

[dessiato]

Giles Coren is one of the very few people I fervently wish would suffer a long and painful illness

His piece in the Times about this is quite good. It describes the situation in which I found myself at these events, and why I've not been to one for about thirty years.

 

[likesfish]

basically, there's a minority who enjoy this sort of thing and getting hammered while showing off wonga does charity some good
some who go once and the rest get dragged along because its the old school tie networking event sit there waiting for the thing to end and will probably be toasting the FT today

 

[trashpony]

His piece in the Times about this is quite good. It describes the situation in which I found myself at these events, and why I've not been to one for about thirty years.

Worse for the men? My heart bleeds for them

You believe that, you'll believe anything. He's just realised that the sort of article he used to write isn't going to get him the writing gigs any more:
A couple of xx’s could end my glorious career
No, Giles Coren, Being Overweight Isn’t The Worst Thing In Life

He's an obnoxious shithead

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

So, The Sun front page today is a tale of broken Britain, because due to all this PC gone mad news of late even - gasp - darts matches aren’t having pretty girls dressed in skimpy clothes any more

 

[Badgers]

 

[dessiato]

I know we're not supposed to cross thread post. I posted this on the other thread and felt it would sit equally here. So, with apologies, I'm posting it here too.

I don't know how typical I am, I imagine I'm notespecially atypical. I look at beautiful things. I like paintings and sculpture, I like beautiful cars, I'll notice a beautiful person (male and female) But stopping and staring at a person, drooling over a stripper, just not my thing. It seems so very wrong. It seems disrespectful. I did it in the past, but I grew up. I can't imagine a situation in which I'd willingly go to watch a stripper or lap dancer.

This change in attitude isn't just due to growing up and seeing the performers in a more humanising way, but also due to places like Urban which has caused me toreexamine my position. I hope I'm the better person for this.

 

[SpookyFrank]

basically, there's ae minority who enjoy this sort of thing and getting hammered while showing off wonga does charity some good
some who go once and the rest get dragged along because its the old school tie networking event sit there waiting for the thing to end and will probably
be toasting the FT today

If you sit there in an environment or situation that makes you uncomfortable because of mistreatment of others and you endure it for the sake of social form then you're as bad as the rest. Arguably worse, because you actually know that what's happening is wrong and yet ingratiating yourself with shit people is more important to you than doing the bare minimum by getting up and leaving.

Don't give me 'dragged along'. If there's anyone being dragged, its young women being dragged in to these things by financial necessity and then being felt up by the sort of human sewage that gets off on being at the right end of such a gruesome imbalance of power.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This change in attitude isn't just due to growing up and seeing the performers in a more humanising way, but also due to places like Urban which has caused me toreexamine my position. I hope I'm the better person for this.

I think many of us have done similar. I've never been in to strippers or even sex that much, but this place has very much helped shape attitudes, especially some posters such as equationgirl to name but one of many who has made me open my eyes to a lot of shit to which I was blind. I think I am a better person for this. So thanks.

 

[Kaka Tim]

what doesn't seem to have been picked up on as much about this event being "men only" - is that its also a networking event - building and reinforcing connections between powerful men where women are excluded except for being items on the menu.

 

[Badgers]

Man who says ‘correct me if I’m wrong’ has no intention of being corrected

 

[equationgirl]

I think many of us have done similar. I've never been in to strippers or even sex that much, but this place has very much helped shape attitudes, especially some posters such as equationgirl to name but one of many who has made me open my eyes to a lot of shit to which I was blind. I think I am a better person for this. So thanks.

You're welcome, Urban has encouraged me to examine my viewpoint on more than one occasion too.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

what doesn't seem to have been picked up on as much about this event being "men only" - is that its also a networking event - building and reinforcing connections between powerful men where women are excluded except for being items on the menu.

This ties in with them members clubs too; no public record of who is a member, loads of ministers and judges of course, so when a minister proposes something you can’t see the conflict of interest if he’s doing it on behalf of a fellow member. Imagine taking someone to court who happens to be a member of the same club as the judge?

This shit needs ending. Now.

 

[Voley]

Nail on head here:

 

[Sasaferrato]

This ties in with them members clubs too; no public record of who is a member, loads of ministers and judges of course, so when a minister proposes something you can’t see the conflict of interest if he’s doing it on behalf of a fellow member. Imagine taking someone to court who happens to be a member of the same club as the judge?

This shit needs ending. Now.

Are you advocating the listing of all Trades Union members? Political Party members? Both of the preceding groups are also capable of collusive behaviour, so should be publically listed in the name of transparency.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Are you advocating the listing of all Trades Union members? Political Party members? Both of the preceding groups are also capable of collusive behaviour, so should be publically listed in the name of transparency.

Yes, of course, why shouldn’t they?

 

[Sasaferrato]

Blimey, I thought he had died.

I have seen hen party behaviour which was absolutely appalling, but cannot say I've seen anyone sexually assaulted.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Yes, of course, why shouldn’t they?

Best of luck getting that one to fly.

I said that to a client one day, he was claiming that a section of EU legislation exempted him from paying taxes.

 

[ddraig]

what do trade union members collude on that's so bad then sas? compared to these 'captains of industry' etc
stronger rights at work? equality?

 

[agricola]

Are you advocating the listing of all Trades Union members? Political Party members? Both of the preceding groups are also capable of collusive behaviour, so should be publically listed in the name of transparency.

Not on anything like the same scale, though. If you divided the money controlled by just tables 1/2 at the Dorchester that night up among every trade union member in the UK, it would easily be five figures each.

 

[Pickman's model]

Blimey, I thought he had died.

I have seen hen party behaviour which was absolutely appalling, but cannot say I've seen anyone sexually assaulted.

He won't survive the bloodlust of 2018. Wait till the afternoon of Nov 24

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I don't think the FT will face an advertiser backlash - imagine being the company that pulled your ads from the FT because of this article. (Also it's made them more valuable in terms of ad sales anyway due to the increased attention and readership.)

It'll mean that all the future events of this sort screen harder for journalists though. It's hardly as if there won't be any more of them.

 

[SpookyFrank]

what do trade union members collude on that's so bad then sas? compared to these 'captains of industry' etc
stronger rights at work? equality?

That and Bolshevism, lesbianism, human sacrifice. All the usual abominations.