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Transphobes gunning hard for 'paedophilia' angle all of a sudden

Clair De Lune said:
'Some people' mate. Not all x
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I know. There are a few who are consistently nasty to me and try to twist what I say or get a bad reaction from me, but I do realise it's not the majority.
I also have some good friends here - some I have met and some I haven't (yet) and that is valuable to me which is why I stay here.
Thank you. (Was having a proper meltdown earlier and didn't intend to suggest that everyone is nasty- most are very kind and understanding)
 
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bimble said:
But is there anything else similar in the whole world where even partaking in a conversation (apart from to say yay go you heart emoji or whatever) is perceived as an act of dehumanisation. i cant think of a single thing.
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This is so incredibly dishonest. Its not participation that is the problem, its when you repeat, spread, give credence to harmful smears, lies or untruths. Or when you talk over the people you are talking about, or just refusing to listen, being unduly skeptical when they are trying to be honest and talking from the heart or just taking something and framing it in a way in order to be hostile to trans people. I see all these things being done by people, clearly aware of what they are doing and then they try to frame it as "oh I was just trying to voice my harmless opinion."
 
Jennaonthebeach said:
Christ - you read something too quickly and jumped to a wrong assumption, launched an angry tirade against them and you accuse them of knee jerking? :facepalm:
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The entire point of my post which apparentely was worth giving me verbal abuse over was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt about use of language - won't be doing that again.
(Not with them at least - anyone else who wants to give support it is OK to get a word wrong, you're not going to get in trouble for a mistake made in good faith, as long as you listen and don't suddenly spew a load of abuse at people!)
 
Epona said:
The entire point of my post which apparentely was worth giving me verbal abuse over was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt about use of language - won't be doing that again.
(Not with them at least - anyone else who wants to give support it is OK to get a word wrong, you're not going to get in trouble for a mistake made in good faith, as long as you listen and don't suddenly spew a load of abuse at people!)
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Yeah, I saw.

I'm quite tolerant but transvestite is a bit of a red flag for me. I guess because i'm a trans woman and I've had it flung at me a lot, often by people who defended use of it in the way that spring peeper did, which is, no apology, and actually being quite defensively angry that they are being forced to explain themselves, and so what, they used the wrong word, all this trans stuff is so new how can we be expected to get the words right bullshit. . And people like that never learn, they just dig themselves in and keep making the same "mistake".
 
Other than that slight positive, I feel like utter shit, and this is what some people (not all!) make us feel like on a day to day basis.

Think before you speak/post - why the fuck does it matter to anyone else that I have a bit of gender dysphoria? Or that someone who was born one way might want to be a different way?
It doesn't fucking matter to I guess around 99% of the population.
Also worth remembering that people who are neurodiverse are also far more likely to experience gender dysphoria. So for many of us it seems like an attack on both fronts!
 
I just don't get why people can't just let other people be. Like I wouldn't personally want a full face tattoo and I can't really understand why anyone would want that. But I also don't want to live in a world where my confusion and lack of understanding had any power or weight over that person's freedom whatsoever.
Weird that some people think that power belongs to them. Weird in a fucking fascist and psychopathic way.
 
Clair De Lune said:
I just don't get why people can't just let other people be. Like I wouldn't personally want a full face tattoo and I can't really understand why anyone would want that. But I also don't want to live in a world where my confusion and lack of understanding had any power or weight over that person's freedom whatsoever.
Weird that some people think that power belongs to them. Weird in a fucking fascist and psychopathic way.
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This is it - I am genuinely fucking scared for my life if people start throwing paedo accusations around because I have some gender dysphoria
Like genuinely fucking scared that if someone accuses me of that (which is of course absolute nonsense) because I don't feel female enough to fit into the norm, that I might actually end up getting killed.
 
And seriously the vast majority of people don't actually have an iron in this fire - it is the current "moral panic" that distracts people from other inequalities in the world (divide & conquer)
 
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Epona said:
If one good thing can come from this it might be that no-one can claim that they weren't being nasty to me cos I was non-binary, oooh didn't know, not transphobic.
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In fairness, some of us forget stuff and others don't often realise that throwaway comments can harm.

Personally, rarely share much these days and find that people can't attack as much if you don't reveal information about yourselves.

Not saying keep your head down and don't speak out, of course.
 
krtek a houby said:
In fairness, some of us forget stuff and others don't often realise that throwaway comments can harm.

Personally, rarely share much these days and find that people can't attack as much if you don't reveal information about yourselves.

Not saying keep your head down and don't speak out, of course.
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I know you come from a good place, I've seen you be very supportive of trans issues

But this current line that you are taking does seem a bit put up and shut up (which can come across as a bit victim blaming) - which I don't think you mean at all, but I would urge you to consider.
 
spring-peeper said:
Oh, give it a rest!!!!

Since you always seem to claim that your errors are due to whatever - so terribly sorry that I had a case of temporary word blindness!!!

Now, go away!!!
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spring-peeper said:
I reread it and you are possibly correct, but Epona does tend to do a lot of knee jerk reactions.
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No you posted something out of order, don't blame it on the poster you attacked
 
Epona said:
I know you come from a good place, I've seen you be very supportive of trans issues

But this current line that you are taking does seem a bit put up and shut up (which can come across as a bit victim blaming) - which I don't think you mean at all, but I would urge you to consider.
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Not victim blaming, hate it and hate those that do. So, wouldn't dare try that tactic for specific reasons which am not going to go into details about.

Am only going to say that things happened here, in the past, courtesy of one or two posters that scarred and made think twice about revealing personal info.

That was my experience. Those people are no longer here for the most part. Do what you have to do and don't let the grief merchants get to you.

Won't stand for any shit, so yes, obviously there was no need for any personal attacks. You are not alone.
 
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