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Transphobes gunning hard for 'paedophilia' angle all of a sudden

That's not the only debatable issue.

Why is it a problem to you if someone who is biologically female identifies as male? How does that impact your life experience?
I don't have a problem with trans genders per se. My childhood friend in New Jersey is a trans woman who has this habit of asking me to escort "her" to high school reunion dinner dance parties!:D

I do have a problem with people denying truth, though.
 
I kind of feel that it is heading that way. It looks like they don't allow dissent here. But, what heck, if I get banned for swimming against the trans activist tide; then so be it.
It's intolerance, right wing bigots and hate speech we find generally hard to keep listening to. Besides there's no shortage of alternative places to spew that kind of vile rhetoric.
 
I do have a problem with people denying truth, though.

Ok, I might regret this...

I'm in agreement with you The Gnome about biological sex being binary with there also being a small subset of intersex, and it being impossible to 'change your sex', but not your gender or the way you present that to the world.

But why does this lead you down a path to be so incensed about 'the truth' on this subject in particular? People deny and dispute facts and the reality of situations all the time, even in pretty undisputed arenas, so what is the actual issue that so concerns you on this topic? Why would you make this the priority political topic above others?
 
I don't have a problem with trans genders per se. My childhood friend in New Jersey is a trans woman who has this habit of asking me to escort "her" to high school reunion dinner dance parties!:D

I do have a problem with people denying truth, though.
What truth?
 
This ^ is intolerance, IMO. Canceling someone who espouses the dissenting view is the height of intolerance.

I mean define 'cancelling', it's a word that gets thrown about so much it's pretty much meaningless imo. And is this relevant to this issue only, or do you think nobody should be 'cancelled'?

My politics involves 'cancelling' an absolute fuck tonne of people and views.
 
Ok, I might regret this...

I'm in agreement with you The Gnome about biological sex being binary with there also being a small subset of intersex, and it being impossible to 'change your sex', but not your gender or the way you present that to the world.
Even conceding this effectively pulls the rug out of under trans people. We don't change gender we are our gender. We change sex using hormones and sometimes surgery. It may not be to your liking, but it works, and is effective, and we get to live out our lives as the sex we feel ourselves to be. this is not a parlour game, or a polite, posh debating society. We are not fucking about. We are doing this to save our lives. Or what we have left of it, after living untold years in misery and disconnected from everyone. People really have no idea what it is to be trans because, like you, clearly, they stopped listening to us years ago. Trans is every bit as real as intersex. some have referred to it as intersex of the mind. Also there may be way more intersex people than is currently known as people only get tested when they have a medical issue that is relevant. You should try basing your opinion on more than just a personal prejudice or O level biology.
 
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For some extreme leftists, left of centre politics really is really right-wing conservatism.

Ah, if it wasn't for those pesky 'extreme leftists'.

I'm an extreme leftist, although I prefer ultra-left as it sounds way cooler.

You're not hear to really discuss things with good intention, you've just got some half-baked mess of ideas you can't even articulate properly coating a nasty core of what I bet is right wing politics.
 
Ok, I might regret this...

I'm in agreement with you The Gnome about biological sex being binary with there also being a small subset of intersex, and it being impossible to 'change your sex', but not your gender or the way you present that to the world.

But why does this lead you down a path to be so incensed about 'the truth' on this subject in particular? People deny and dispute facts and the reality of situations all the time, even in pretty undisputed arenas, so what is the actual issue that so concerns you on this topic? Why would you make this the priority political topic above others?
I am not incensed about this at all. Yes, I am matter of factly but it is the passion that supporters of trans gender politics on the forum that you should be noting; not my responses to them. Don't you think?
 
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