Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

[teqniq]

This must be some parallel universe that I have been hitherto unacquainted with

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

A WOMAN cannot decide which way to vote in the EU referendum because she fancies Jude Law but loathes Keira Knightley.

Joanna Kramer, from Stoke-on-Trent, says the letter from 250 British stars backing the Remain campaign has confused the issue because of her conflicting feelings about them.

She added: “If Paloma Faith backs staying in the EU then I’m out, because she’s an irritating tart with a well common voice. So you’d think the issue would be settled.

“But then Benedict Cumberbatch is in, and he’s lush, but then Jessie Ware’s signed and she really annoys me, though come to think of it I’ve mixed her up with Jessie J.

“Really it does come down to Law and Knightley, because he’s gorgeous even though he has gone bald and she can’t act and is nothing but a posh slag.

“What to do, what to do? I think I’ll wait and see what Adele says. She’s never led me wrong.”

 

[gosub]

A WOMAN cannot decide which way to vote in the EU referendum because she fancies Jude Law but loathes Keira Knightley.

Joanna Kramer, from Stoke-on-Trent, says the letter from 250 British stars backing the Remain campaign has confused the issue because of her conflicting feelings about them.

She added: “If Paloma Faith backs staying in the EU then I’m out, because she’s an irritating tart with a well common voice. So you’d think the issue would be settled.

“But then Benedict Cumberbatch is in, and he’s lush, but then Jessie Ware’s signed and she really annoys me, though come to think of it I’ve mixed her up with Jessie J.

“Really it does come down to Law and Knightley, because he’s gorgeous even though he has gone bald and she can’t act and is nothing but a posh slag.

“What to do, what to do? I think I’ll wait and see what Adele says. She’s never led me wrong.”

Daily Mash tbf

 

[skyscraper101]

Did anyone watch Paxman last night?

Paxman in Brussels: Who Really Rules Us?

I thought it was quite enjoyable without bias to either side, but even knowing he's a tory I couldn't tell which way he'd vote by the end.

 

[Greebozz]

I've got a lot of people on ignore, so if anyone is talking shit about me that I can't see, then kindly get stuffed. If not then disregard that and please continue as you were.

 

[kabbes]

I've got a lot of people on ignore, so if anyone is talking shit about me that I can't see, then kindly get stuffed. If not then disregard that and please continue as you were.

As if you don't know, you nasty little thin-skinned racist.

 

[Greebozz]

Did anyone watch Paxman last night?

Paxman in Brussels: Who Really Rules Us?

I thought it was quite enjoyable without bias to either side, but even knowing he's a tory I couldn't tell which way he'd vote by the end.

To me everything from the BBC is a total puff piece about Europe, everything so fluffy and friendly. "Oh we like a big family of course we argue a lot"., It's all smiles until we get ensnared. It's almost like a time capsule of the image of the European Union from about 5 years ago. There wasn't much discussion about forced quotas of Syrian migrants or the dodgy Turkey deal.

I'm from a business background and people can be all lovey-dovey but if you don't have any power in a contract, you don't have any.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Daily Mash tbf

Most accurate news outlet available for information regarding the referendum tbh.

 

[gosub]

Most accurate news outlet available for information regarding the referendum tbh.

the official campaigns are beyond parody.

 

[gosub]

To me everything from the BBC is a total puff piece about Europe, everything so fluffy and friendly. "Oh we like a big family of course we argue a lot"., It's all smiles until we get ensnared. It's almost like a time capsule of the image of the European Union from about 5 years ago. There wasn't much discussion about forced quotas of Syrian migrants or the dodgy Turkey deal.

I'm from a business background and people can be all lovey-dovey but if you don't have any power in a contract, you don't have any.

Don't get me started on the BBC: all those so called "science" programs Professor Jim makes.....not one polar bear! How can you have a science program without polar bears And they are wasting our license fee remaking Watership Down, I bet you there's no polar bears in that either.

 

[gosub]

Leaving the EU will change almost nothing – to start with

finally

 

[Libertad]

Leaving the EU will change almost nothing – to start with

finally

It's frothy subsidiarity maan.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

Free online course on the EU Referendum from the Open University/FutureLearn, if anyone's interested (greebozz) - starts 13 June for three weeks.

Towards Brexit? The UK's EU Referendum - The University of Edinburgh

(I've done a few of these FutureLearn courses before, they're generally pretty good, they start off pretty basic then get into the detail and give you the chance to research the more involved stuff.)

 

[Greebozz]

Free online course on the EU Referendum from the Open University/FutureLearn, if anyone's interested (greebozz) - starts 13 June for three weeks.

Towards Brexit? The UK's EU Referendum - The University of Edinburgh

(I've done a few of these FutureLearn courses before, they're generally pretty good, they start off pretty basic then get into the detail and give you the chance to research the more involved stuff.)

I'm going to think about it for a day or two but I think I might do that course, I'm very tempted, thanks for posting the link here.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'll just add, we've got pretty awful politicians running the country, but that could change we can have good politicians the make Britain fairer and care about the environment, we could outdo Europe in terms of all the good things that they have helped with in terms of protecting workers and the environment. To me there is an exciting future compared to the alternative, the depression of everything being bogged down, endless bickering and arguments between member states of the EU and the feeling of utter powerlessness.

Bad politics has bugger-all to do with being in or out of Europe, you fruitbat. It has to do with neoliberalism being the current economic and political consensus.

 

[gosub]

Bad politics has bugger-all to do with being in or out of Europe, you fruitbat. It has to do with neoliberalism being the current economic and political consensus.

Actually it does. The Murder of Gonzago brigade are unfortunately showing we have no-one capable of Captaining a life-boat. And Corbyn's got other fish to fry.

 

[gosub]

House prices face 18% hit if Britain quits EU, says George Osborne


Average age of first time buyer 38. Average age of UK population 40. That's a large chunk to disregard.

Moody's reckon on balance betters for first time buyers

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I'd like to see them fall ten-fold.

 

[gosub]

I'd like to see them fall ten-fold.

+ higher interest rates for older mortgage paid off voters....

 

[redsquirrel]

As the 23 June vote draws closer, Downing Street intends to point to a growing range of independent bodies who are on their side, such as the Bank of England, OECD and International Monetary Fund, as well as business chiefs and world leaders.

Oh well that's changed my mind, who could possible disagree with these independent voices.

 

[Mr Moose]

What if the old folk know a thing or two and you don't have to do resign yourself to wearily voting remain.

If the old folk knew anything then maybe they would have stopped reading the Express and the Mail for their daily dose of bile. The politics of the right inclined over 50s is a 'down with that sort of thing' two fingers up to 'political correctness' or 'health and safety' new things and foreign things. The poorer ones are throwing in their lot with belligerent politicians like Boris and Farage who would not piss on them if they were on fire.

They have real grievances and problems, like how difficult it is for their kids to be housed, but to address them they side with a political class that sells of housing and invites the world to treat UK housing as an investment vehicle.

 

[Mr Moose]

There's plenty of equally distrustworthy politicians on the Brexit side though, who are just as much part of the establishment.

Bit mild. Name one you would trust.

 

[William of Walworth]

I'd tend to follow the old question "Why is this bastard lying to me?" with any of them.

I have a weakness for Corbyn though

 

[brogdale]

If the old folk knew anything then maybe they would have stopped reading the Express and the Mail for their daily dose of bile. The politics of the right inclined over 50s is a 'down with that sort of thing' two fingers up to 'political correctness' or 'health and safety' new things and foreign things. The poorer ones are throwing in their lot with belligerent politicians like Boris and Farage who would not piss on them if they were on fire.

They have real grievances and problems, like how difficult it is for their kids to be housed, but to address them they side with a political class that sells of housing and invites the world to treat UK housing as an investment vehicle.

All that discontent with the effects of the (neoliberal) abandonment of the post-war social 'contract' has to be channelled/deflected somewhere...and remember, for "Generation EuroRef2.0" identity politics won't do the trick.

 

[Greebozz]

If the old folk knew anything then maybe they would have stopped reading the Express and the Mail for their daily dose of bile. The politics of the right inclined over 50s is a 'down with that sort of thing' two fingers up to 'political correctness' or 'health and safety' new things and foreign things. The poorer ones are throwing in their lot with belligerent politicians like Boris and Farage who would not piss on them if they were on fire.

They have real grievances and problems, like how difficult it is for their kids to be housed, but to address them they side with a political class that sells of housing and invites the world to treat UK housing as an investment vehicle.

You know how old people generally don't really like modern pop music that you don't see many oldies growing their beards out and getting trendy tattoos. Since I reached my 40s, I know more who I am And that my body had definitely started falling to bits.

Point is, like fashion, I think propaganda has very little traction when one gets older. All my thoughts about the EU referendum are based on my own thoughts. In regard to news media I want to know what's happening low interest in someone's opinion piece.

My reasons for wanting to leave the EU is largely based on my own personal assessment which is based on reasons that convinced me.

Example what I know really works, is giving part of the UK more control of their own affairs. For example Wales and Scotland having control about the political issues that affect their own regions. It energises the politics and filled people with excitement and interest.

Save if you're doing a group project, if you know someone is particularly passionate about a certain area, you get them to do it. That the supporters of a football team are far more passionate about the future of the club than some overseas business conglomeration

In my life I have observed many soul sucking bureaucracies that I feel who deliberately make ever more complexity to make themselves indispensable and unfirable.

When I hear anyone "of course there are problems that we need to talk about" I die inside because if you have no power you are ignored and you stop asking.

I've had experience of being mired in dangerous contracts. I've had good and bad experience of communal living and if you create a commune with a whole bunch of hippies and members of the local rugby team there may probably be problems down the line.

I could go on listing reasons, for my preference to leave the EU. I could be wrong, but don't tell me the reason for my opinion is because I read the Daily Mail or some other newspaper because I can assure you I do not.

 

[butchersapron]

Drivel

 

[Greebozz]

Accidental repost while rolling my eyes at butchers apron. I got some more drivel, what I write is like a dog whistle to anyone with intelligence. The problem is stupid people that they've no idea they are stupid but tend to be loud and moronic. Urban used to be a great forum now it's infested by idiots and moronic children masquerading as adults. You think they're clever for writing the word drivel but in reality they don't have the skill to write anything more complex. Butchers apron you are an complete fucking twat. I've had enough of this forum, enjoy your one word moronic comment you total fucking arsehole.

 

[teqniq]

Are you quoting yourself now because nobody else is paying any attention?

 

[Nylock]

Are you quoting yourself now because nobody else is paying any attention?

Its because everyone else is on ignore

 

[two sheds]

Is this flounce no. 3?