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Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

Dogsauce said:
No, the thread has been viewed more than 60,000 times, not viewed more than 60,000 times by different people.

Does that count as a 'flood' or 'swarm' of views in your book?

What is it with racists and maths?
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60483/2310= 26.18 I'd say readership <40
 
Greebozz said:
The purpose of me posting on this thread is to highlight the problems with Europe and give reasons to leave the EU. I might be wrong in my opinions but I think I'm coming across far more intelligent than the handful of people who have been giving me rather dumb verbal abuse. My audience is silent majority reading the comments on this forum and I think I'm doing very well. If we vote to leave the EU it will truly be one of the greatest days of my life and I think it'll be great every single person living in the UK, I'm utterly passionate about it. The whole argument about leaving the EU is based on fear and depression.
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Speaking as someone half inclined to vote leave I think you're a sad, immature cunt incapable of having a real discussion.
 
its these dickheads magnified into horror forms like grassroots go etc that make me want to abstain but it looks like a comfortable remain anyway so I shall stand firm as it won't happen . Cock and balls will not get this vote, it will go to exit.
 
Okay people you win, I've been defeated, I'm actually quite impressed. It's quite bruising arguing like we have been, I feel pretty dinged up. I'm going to let go of the whole issue.
 
Greebozz said:
I urge everyone to stand up to people who call you a racist if you talk about immigration or Britain coming out of Europe. It feels great.
I believe we have a Tory government and barely functioning Labour Party because for years on the Labour side, if anyone mentioned immigration, the attack dogs and thugs of the left would humiliate and belittle them.
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Then you would have liked Jeremy Corbyn's opening EU speech in which he talked at length about the need to tackle problems caused by EU freedom of movement; living wage enforcement, wage councils, easier collective bargaining recognition, EU regional grants to local area needing funds for infrastructure expansion and an EU-wide minimum wage. But if you mean by the immigration debate too many carrot pickers talking funny foreign languages down Tesco in Spalding then no Jeremy didn't mention immigration.
 
youngian said:
Then you would have liked Jeremy Corbyn's opening EU speech in which he talked at length about the need to tackle problems caused by EU freedom of movement; living wage enforcement, wage councils, easier collective bargaining recognition, EU regional grants to local area needing funds for infrastructure expansion and an EU-wide minimum wage. But if you mean by the immigration debate too many carrot pickers talking funny foreign languages down Tesco in Spalding then no Jeremy didn't mention immigration.
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???A pan EUropean mimimum wage would be lower than the UK one
 
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Greebozz said:
I'll bear what you say in mind but I think the people that are giving me abuse and making accusations towards me, are the same sorts of people that join the Morality Police Iran, people who wish to be nasty and bullying yet feel themselves superior.

I feel many people are looking at the European debate as a way to condemn an attack others and get plaudits from their small peer group. Nearly 60,000 people have viewed this thread, what do they think? Like someone being bullied I'm sure many don't dare speak up for fear they too will become a target, and I think that says volumes about this forum.

In terms of putting people on ignore, I would never do that permanently.
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I'm a lurker on this thread and fuck off.
 
Greebozz said:
The purpose of me posting on this thread is to highlight the problems with Europe and give reasons to leave the EU. I might be wrong in my opinions but I think I'm coming across far more intelligent than the handful of people who have been giving me rather dumb verbal abuse. My audience is silent majority reading the comments on this forum and I think I'm doing very well. If we vote to leave the EU it will truly be one of the greatest days of my life and I think it'll be great every single person living in the UK, I'm utterly passionate about it. The whole argument about leaving the EU is based on fear and depression.
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I'd be willing to bet there are long-term lurkers reading this thread who have signed up as new members simply so they can put you on ignore and avoid your poisonous drivel, you pompous, self-centred, self aggrandising deluded fool.

And should I add that you're a racist cunt, just for good measure...
 
So it seems it was 20 odd pro brexit tory MPs who forced a government climb down by agreeing to legislate to keep the NHS out of TTIP. I assume they doubt they will achieve brexit which would bring its own protection?
 
weltweit said:
So it seems it was 20 odd pro brexit tory MPs who forced a government climb down by agreeing to legislate to keep the NHS out of TTIP. I assume they doubt they will achieve brexit which would bring its own protection?
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Web stats between leave /remain don't look promising and the leadership hopefuls playing 'murder of gonzago' kicked the floor from under us with the unobtainable 'outside the single market'. Keeping the likes of Greebooz sweet more important than credibilty apparently.
 
Direct logic says you're both right, but capitalist logic suggests I'm sensible to be underconvinced.

Main driver of TTIP is the US.

Off to bed. Back tomorrow or at the w/e.
 
gosub said:
???A pan EUropean mimimum wage would be lower than the UK one
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I should have explained that better; the proposal is to set national minimum wages at similar percentage level of the country's mean average wage. I think but it's not a policy for a pan-EU minimum wage.
 
gosub said:
Not this side of a general election if at all.
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Or it could be the outgoing bastards' dying fuck-you. Like Major's privatisation of the railways.

I think it was only Poland in Europe who also signed up to the extradition terms. Most countries had constitutions and stuff that prevented it, as does the US, ironically enough, hence it's unreciprocal. That was Blair, these are likely to be the same - 'Don't worry, we don't really have a constitution, lol. '
 
Apologies if this has already been posted (it probably has), but Paul Mason captures the resigned, reluctant, fatalistic reasons I'll be wearily ticking the remain box (plenty of good facts here too.)

The leftwing case for Brexit (one day)

Short version - EU is shit, Boris run neo-liberal theme park/hell holewhich would happen if we left would be even shitter, and much so.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Or it could be the outgoing bastards' dying fuck-you. Like Major's privatisation of the railways.

I think it was only Poland in Europe who also signed up to the extradition terms. Most countries had constitutions and stuff that prevented it, as does the US, ironically enough, hence it's unreciprocal. That was Blair, these are likely to be the same - 'Don't worry, we don't really have a constitution, lol. '
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Tory majority 12 and no majority in the the Lords...
 
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