Tory UK EU Exit Referendum

[brogdale]

Probably nothing here that we didn't already know...but FWIW here is YG's latest (& last) map of EUref support. (Blue = Leave, Red = Remain).

I'm seeing forecasts for thundery, heavy rain events for Eastern England on Thursday.
It'll be OK for those posh, Waitrose remainarians in their 4WDs...but the dispossessed, left-behind underclass won't feel too chuffed about leaving 'spoons to get soaked getting down the village hall.

 

[weltweit]

I've been spammed hard from all quarters. one 'don't vote with farage' leaflet managed to survive dog

I got the government leaflet at the very start but nothing since.

Bit confused, there is a hauliers yard not too far from here that has 8 vote leave posters up, I would have thought hauliers would have been pro remain?

 

[Pickman's model]

I got the government leaflet at the very start but nothing since.

Bit confused, there is a hauliers yard not too far from here that has 8 vote leave posters up, I would have thought hauliers would have been pro remain?

why not ask them?

 

[weltweit]

why not ask them?

I was driving past .. in a hurry .. I had seen a leave poster there two weeks ago

Perhaps they are domestic hauliers, I can't see international ones wanting more border hassle.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was driving past .. in a hurry .. I had seen a leave poster there two weeks ago

Perhaps they are domestic hauliers, I can't see international ones wanting more border hassle.

why not stop and chat and make some new friends?

 

[weltweit]

why not stop and chat and make some new friends?

They would probably want to lynch me on one of their recovery trucks

 

[Pickman's model]

They would probably want to lynch me on one of their recovery trucks

 

[hot air baboon]

They would probably want to lynch me on one of their recovery trucks

..ankles fixed to one van, arms to the other and off they go...

I would have thought hauliers would have been pro remain?

...thought alot of them were getting slaughtered by continental hauliers ( fuel tax etc ) ...also maybe an expression of general off-pissment over the migrant related disruptions at the French Ports ?

 

[redsquirrel]

Not complaining so much as wondering. Given the fuss made I would have expected a deluge of faff but the silence is surprising.

For whatever reason they might have you down as a sure voter for one camp or the other. Surely they will target the people they believe are don't knows

 

[chilango]

For whatever reason they might have you down as a sure voter for one camp or the other. Surely they will target the people they believe are don't knows

Dunno. I'm getting a tonne of crap. If it was just Remain stuff I'd assume the local Greens (and possibly Labour) who regularly trouble my letterbox were behind it, but as Leave are piling shit thru' too...

 

[NoXion]

For whatever reason they might have you down as a sure voter for one camp or the other. Surely they will target the people they believe are don't knows

Votes in this country are by secret ballot right? How would they know my likely voting intentions?

 

[redsquirrel]

Dunno. I'm getting a tonne of crap. If it was just Remain stuff I'd assume the local Greens (and possibly Labour) who regularly trouble my letterbox were behind it, but as Leave are piling shit thru' too...

But didn't you say that you live on a rather split middle-class/working class street? Could be a swing area?

 

[redsquirrel]

Votes in this country are by secret ballot right? How would they know my likely voting intentions?

Same way as for general elections, they look at all the polling and from that work out if it's worth targeting the area you live in or not. If you live in a ward that they think is likely to be solidly one way they probably aren't going to bother much with you.

 

[chilango]

But didn't you say that you live on a rather split middle-class/working class street? Could be a swing area?

Could be. Swing ward in a swing seat. Labour need to win here to win the seat and Reading East is one of those indicator seats in Westminster elections I believe.

 

[brogdale]

Have to say, round here in the Croydon 'burbs I've see very few posters up in people's windows, either R or L.

 

[killer b]

Votes in this country are by secret ballot right? How would they know my likely voting intentions?

the demographic split of voting intention is quite sharp in this one.

 

[chilango]

Votes in this country are by secret ballot right? How would they know my likely voting intentions?

By canvassing?

In Party elections the Greens and Labour both knock our street with their lists and note down their voters for further canvassing etc.

 

[two sheds]

Mainly 'Leave' posters on land of people who normally put up UKIP posters here.

 

[chilango]

the demographic split of voting intention is quite sharp in this one.

...though oversimplified.

 

[inva]

i've had loads of leave stuff, nothing much of remain

 

[brogdale]

Mainly 'Leave' posters on land of people who normally put up UKIP posters here.

Here?

 

[two sheds]

My bit of Cornwall.

 

[killer b]

...though oversimplified.

I'm sure. they haven't had the resources or time for a full canvas though, so it's what they'll be relying on to decide where to focus their energies.

 

[brogdale]

My bit of Cornwall.

Farmers fed up with having to lug all those subsidies to the bank?

 

[two sheds]

hehe yes they do seem to appear on farm land

 

[chilango]

I'm sure. they haven't had the resources or time for a full canvas though, so it's what they'll be relying on to decide where to focus their energies.

Yeah. Fair point. I'm just cautious about the tendency appearing to put the split down to just class, or age, or Scottishness!

 

[chilango]

...I had a personally addressed Remain leaflet today.

...but as I've said before I've also got IPSOS and YouGov hanging on my every word. I don't know what dent I'm making n their margin of error but it'd be fun to find out.

 

[newharper]

Mainly 'Leave' posters on land of people who normally put up UKIP posters here.

Same here.

Herefordshire.

 

[discokermit]

Farmers fed up with having to lug all those subsidies to the bank?

old article but you can see where those subsidies go. apols if it's been posted a million times, Revealed: how we pay our richest landowners millions in subsidies

 

[hot air baboon]

Something just occurred to me; apart from the polling card I haven't received any referendum-related bumf in the post at all. I wonder why that is?

...if either side had booked whoever it is delivering the endless torrent of takeaway menus round our way they'd probably have the whole thing sewn up by now...