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Why is mears still allowed on these boards? His only reason for starting this thread is obvious: to pick a fight and to spread more lies and disinformation.
pbman said:To identify a Straw Man Argument, you must be familiar enough with the topic in question to recognize when someone is setting up a caricature. Understanding when someone is using this deceptive tactic is the best way to call attention to the weakness of the straw man position.
A Straw Man Argument is a statement a person makes if they want to more easily attack an opposing position.
Let's take the following position: "Evolution has been the main engine of speciation throughout natural history."
A person using a Straw Man against that position will intentionally make a ridiculous caricature of evolution, one that only the most ignorant might believe. These are the steps they might use to try to "disprove evolution".
Golly Geewilligers Pbman! All them fancy words and sentences strung together with nary a spelling or syntax error. Sacre bleu!!!pbman said:To identify a Straw Man Argument, you must be familiar enough with the topic in question to recognize when someone is setting up a caricature. Understanding when someone is using this deceptive tactic is the best way to call attention to the weakness of the straw man position.
A Straw Man Argument is a statement a person makes if they want to more easily attack an opposing position.
Let's take the following position: "Evolution has been the main engine of speciation throughout natural history."
A person using a Straw Man against that position will intentionally make a ridiculous caricature of evolution, one that only the most ignorant might believe. These are the steps they might use to try to "disprove evolution".
Why aren't you rich? Stupid lazy bastards.pbman said:And were not exactly a rich state, but we do consider our lives important.
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revol68 said:if i hear one more fuckwit mention looting i'll fucking explode.
phildwyer said:Looting!
Coyote said:Mears is a smug crank who's convinced of his own brilliance. Self-satisfied in the notion that somehow his naff barbs will make those lefty euroweenies squirm. Some of us may be squirming but not for the reasons he believes.
He walks away from an evening's postings thinking he comes away smelling like roses while to the rest of us he reeks of a tainted burrito.
He accuses people of poltical opportunism and lack of empathy. Yet I see nothing in any of his remarks that indicates to me that he has a shred more compassion than anyone here. More likely he's just another detached clambaked fartsack sniffing the crotch hemlines of his Freeper heros.
Even some of the most gumption bereft members of his jolly GOP party have bitchslapped Georgie, yet Mears and his mini-me Mr. Pib stand by their fella.
Gumbert said:going back to the tsunami business, as i recall there were buckets going round the supemarkets here three days after the event. then there was he disscusion amongst the fatcats and it came to light that beakons that warned of an approaching tsunami were deemed to expensive £15million iirc. the money that ending up being laid out was more than 15 times that amount after the tsunami.
thats what makes this disaster so cowing to pbman and JC2 is that something could and should have been done. to stop the current disaster but instead put their faith in a ruling class that quite frankly didnt give a shit about the people left behind in all the cities and towns arond the geographical area of New Orleans..
It was common knowledge that over 100,000 people in New Orleans relied on public transport, therefore why wasnt it suggested that all transport out of the immediate areas were free and hat the drivers of trains and buses were asked to get as many people out as possible? then
it comes to the young poor and infirm, most of these people would be in touch with atleast some, school, care, health agency...when they knew that the hurricane was upon them take the necessary action to get these vunerable people out...
but it goes without saying now, that these people are now dead.
and its precisly the rulers whom, represtented by bush, are looked at with such scorn because it is they and their policies of wealth creation that disenfranchised the now desperate and dead in the first place cos the most of the annual budget on health welfare and education has been slashed. This in a country were there is more money spent on prisons, homeland security (sic) and occupations abroad- nevermind the ruling class ...
hail the cheif....
Bernie Gunther said:The people without credit cards were left to die. You expect us to stand around saying, "Wow, the free market's great isn't it? look how well it works"
The great free market society just left those poor sods to die in the street.
I think you're pretty spoiled for choice, India was far more efficient in responding to the aftermath of the tsunami. Sihii was quoting some stuff earlier about India having hundreds of helicopters loaded and on the way within a day or two. In fact, judging by previous performance, even Clinton-era FEMA would have be considerably more useful. This is what happens when you let your society's essential public safety infrastructure get privatised and its funds most likely squandered on war on terror boondoggles and fat tax cuts.Jo/Joe said:Currently inexistance? Sweden's or Norway's. But not yours.
And Cuba's, as fucked up as it is by the evil embargo.Jo/Joe said:Currently inexistance? Sweden's or Norway's. But not yours.
Bernie Gunther said:I think you're pretty spoiled for choice, India was far more efficient in responding to the aftermath of the tsunami. Sihii was quoting some stuff earlier about India having hundreds of helicopters loaded and on the way within a day or two. In fact, judging by previous performance, even Clinton-era FEMA would have be considerably more useful. This is what happens when you let your society's essential public safety infrastructure get privatised and its funds most likely squandered on war on terror boondoggles and fat tax cuts.
http://www.indianembassy.org/Tsunami/Tsunami.htmIndian relief and assistance efforts for Sri Lanka, Indonesia and Maldives are already underway. Four Indian Naval Ships sailed to Colombo on 27 Dec carrying medical stores and relief material. Six MI-17 helicopters also moved to Colombo on 27 Dec for search and rescue and relief missions.
mears said:What economic system would best care for these people?
Bernie Gunther said:I think you're pretty spoiled for choice, India was far more efficient in responding to the aftermath of the tsunami. Sihii was quoting some stuff earlier about India having hundreds of helicopters loaded and on the way within a day or two. In fact, judging by previous performance, even Clinton-era FEMA would have be considerably more useful. This is what happens when you let your society's essential public safety infrastructure get privatised and its funds most likely squandered on war on terror boondoggles and fat tax cuts.
My error. Sorry about that.sihhi said:I didn't say "hundreds" did I? I think that's wrong.<snip>
Lock&Light said:I have no inclination to back up pbman, especially following his ridiculous postings over the last few days, but I do want to stress that not everyone who posts on Urban is in agreement with the stupid remarks about lynch mobs made by James Walsh.
Bernie Gunther said:If you wanted a straight answer mears. You got one. I think that the political and economic system of almost any civilised country would have done better.
Not too many civilised countries ever have to deal with that
Jo/Joe said:Just so as we're all clear, which countries are uncivilised?