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[TopCat]

Here's the current business view on Brexit

Eight in 10 businesses believe Brexit will cause long-term hurt for UK economy

An exclusive poll for i shows that firms feel the Government had not done enough to support them through Brexit

inews.co.uk

Anti capitalists for capitalism.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

a little brexit anecdote; saw my friend this weekend, his brother moved to spain end of the 90s and overtime came to buy a small and cheap house in the outback...was living cheap there ever since... ffwd to brexit, wanted to apply to remain but doesnt have the provable income
, so has been forced to move back to uk this year and is now living on a dank canal boat moored up under the a1 near bedford and is deeply deeply gutted and generally fucked.
it'll be interesting to hear stats as to how many people come back from the continent, though i guess there is no reason anyone would've noted his return so as to count it, so stats might not be available[/B]

 

[The39thStep]

Did they threaten to kick him out? I’m surprised as I know several people living in Spain with no residency who have had no hassle. Can’t leave for the uk easily but otherwise no problems.

Got very little sympathy for those who flaunt a countries residency rules tbh. How much are dank canal boats in Bedford these days?

 

[philosophical]

Fuck me it's Stanley (the Irish will always shoot each other) Johnson posting above.

 

[TopCat]

Got very little sympathy for those who flaunt a countries residency rules tbh. How much are dank canal boats in Bedford these days?

Twenty grand plus then mooring costs or continuous cruising.

 

[TopCat]

So could of rented a flat.

 

[two sheds]

and after 3 years he's got nothing while his way he'll still have a canal boat. If it's as bad as that where he is he can always go for a little jaunt up the canal.

 

[sleaterkinney]

and after 3 years he's got nothing while his way he'll still have a canal boat. If it's as bad as that where he is he can always go for a little jaunt up the canal.

He can fish his own dinner!.

 

[andysays]

a little brexit anecdote; saw my friend this weekend, his brother moved to spain end of the 90s and overtime came to buy a small and cheap house in the outback...was living cheap there ever since... ffwd to brexit, wanted to apply to remain but doesnt have the provable income, so has been forced to move back to uk this year and is now living on a dank canal boat moored up under the a1 near bedford and is deeply deeply gutted and generally fucked.
it'll be interesting to hear stats as to how many people come back from the continent, though i guess there is no reason anyone would've noted his return so as to count it, so stats might not be available

What does "doesn't have the provable income" mean in this case?

 

[TopCat]

What does "doesn't have the provable income" mean in this case?

Got to show income of x per year. Can’t remember how much.

 

[andysays]

Got to show income of x per year. Can’t remember how much.

I know that, I'm wondering why ska invita has specifically used the word "provable"

 

[editor]

Anti capitalists for capitalism.

Yeah, fuck all the businesses, man. All of them. Even the small ones. And the people they employ. And musicians, bands, artists, actors, performers, stage crew too. Because Brexit is just soooo worth it.

 

[TopCat]

I know that, I'm wondering why ska invita has specifically used the word "provable"

You have to be able to evidence the income. Bank statements and such.

 

[andysays]

You have to be able to evidence the income. Bank statements and such.

I realise you're trying to be helpful, but I'm actually asking ska invita to answer my question as to why this specific person in their anecdote doesn't have sufficient provable income, and I'm still hoping to get a answer from them, not from you or anyone else.

 

[ska invita]

What does "doesn't have the provable income" mean in this case?

Doesn't earn anywhere near that much

 

[ska invita]

Cant tell you anymore about this person as it's my friends brother and I've passed on everything he told me.

 

[andysays]

Doesn't earn anywhere near that much

So it's not an issue of provability, simply one of not earning enough?

I'm slightly surprised that they're apparently able to afford to buy property, but don't earn over the income threshold, but maybe that's more reflection of the Spanish property market not being as ridiculous as here in Britain.

 

[Loose meat]

quite the horticultural part of the world. Online, vacuum sealing, you can absorb a reasonable level of 'wastage' as well.

 

[ska invita]

So it's not an issue of provability, simply one of not earning enough?

I'm slightly surprised that they're apparently able to afford to buy property, but don't earn over the income threshold, but maybe that's more reflection of the Spanish property market not being as ridiculous as here in Britain.

I don't know his financial details but I have two close friends in Spain and know of (not personally but via friends) many more, including some old free party peeps... There's definitely a network of Brits living out there on the cheap... There's all kinds of cheap land and near abandoned houses in Spain

 

[The39thStep]

Doesn't earn anywhere near that much

Not being funny Ska but this bloke had about a decade or more to apply for residency pre December 31st 2020. Even though theres nearly always been a 'sufficient financial means ' test on paper it was rarely applied pre Dec 31st . Once you are in they dont ask you when you renew.

 

[ska invita]

Not being funny Ska but this bloke had about a decade or more to apply for residency pre December 31st 2020. Even though theres nearly always been a 'sufficient financial means ' test on paper it was rarely applied pre Dec 31st . One you are in they dont ask you when you renew.

dont know about that, but i do know hes thinking of moving to portugal because of the lower threshold there

 

[The39thStep]

dont know about that, but i do know hes thinking of moving to portugal because of the lower threshold there

Takes note to speak to Portuguese Socialist Party about higher income thresholds for UK hippies

 

[teuchter]

I don't quite get the reasons for the line of questioning here - is the implication that 'he's probably a drug dealer or something so it serves him right'?

 

[TopCat]

I don't quite get the reasons for the line of questioning here - is the implication that 'he's probably a drug dealer or something so it serves him right'?

No implication like that at all.

 

[TopCat]

Yeah, fuck all the businesses, man. All of them. Even the small ones. And the people they employ. And musicians, bands, artists, actors, performers, stage crew too. Because Brexit is just soooo worth it.

You forgot advert jingle composers.

 

[editor]

You forgot advert jingle composers.

And there you go again. Belittling musicians and the creative industry. Shameful, really.

 

[Loose meat]

It's genuinely fascinating to see just relentless negativity. You have to be so dedicted to be that myopic. U75 is truly a niche internet environment.

 

[Pickman's model]

And there you go again. Belittling musicians and the creative industry. Shameful, really.

Ad jingles don't just make themselves you know and it's disappointing to see you belittle the skill and thought that goes into crafting them.

 

[Loose meat]

a partial, one-week summary:

 

[editor]

Ad jingles don't just make themselves you know and it's disappointing to see you belittle the skill and thought that goes into crafting them.

That's precisely not what I'm doing.