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[TopCat]

Go for it.
Score as many internet points as you like, the land border will remain a huge problem.

Goalposts strapped to his back and a big line of speed. Watch him move.

 

[philosophical]

no

Lucky you if you know why people voted leave.
I am not inclined to go by what people say in this instance, but by how the leave vote is manifested in practical terms.

 

[belboid]

Lucky you if you know why people voted leave.
I am not inclined to go by what people say in this instance, but by how the leave vote is manifested in practical terms.

Ffs you’re either the dumbest fucker on the planet or a really dull troll. Either way you add nothing so welcome to ignore.

 

[Pickman's model]

Go for it.
Score as many internet points as you like, the land border will remain a huge problem.

Yes, we have thousands of your posts saying that. you asked whether there'd been discussion of the matter during the referendum campaign. The answer is yes, yes there was. I'll add some evidence to support that later but it's a bit fucking rich of you to fart on about point scoring when I'm just answering your shitty question

 

[Pickman's model]

Lucky you if you know why people voted leave.
I am not inclined to go by what people say in this instance, but by how the leave vote is manifested in practical terms.

This makes no sense

 

[TopCat]

This makes no sense

I will explain. He didn’t like the way you undermined his argument with facts. So he changed his point of reference. Again.
Responding to the tedious cunt just drags the thread through the shit.

 

[philosophical]

Ffs you’re either the dumbest fucker on the planet or a really dull troll. Either way you add nothing so welcome to ignore.

Good.

 

[philosophical]

Yes, we have thousands of your posts saying that. you asked whether there'd been discussion of the matter during the referendum campaign. The answer is yes, yes there was. I'll add some evidence to support that later but it's a bit fucking rich of you to fart on about point scoring when I'm just answering your shitty question

You offered to provide the evidence. I didn't demand it of you. So I await the results of all your research clearly indicating the issues pertaining to the land border in Ireland published and made widely available to everybody during the leave/remain campaign.
Go for it and make good your offer.
I will help you by suggesting that there is a video of Theresa May mentioning the issue...So you now have that to get you started.

 

[TopCat]

You offered to provide the evidence. I didn't demand it of you. So I await the results of all your research clearly indicating the issues pertaining to the land border in Ireland published and made widely available to everybody during the leave/remain campaign.
Go for it and make good your offer.
I will help you by suggesting that there is a video of Theresa May mentioning the issue...So you now have that to get you started.

Goalposts moved again. I’m thinking of campaigning for thread bans for you.

 

[philosophical]

I will explain. He didn’t like the way you undermined his argument with facts. So he changed his point of reference. Again.
Responding to the tedious cunt just drags the thread through the shit.

I have not had my positioned undermined by facts.
Am I right in assuming you voted leave?
If so in terms of 'not like (ing)' things it explains your abusive reaction to me.
As well as your total misrepresentation of what has happened.
Enjoy your festival of Brexit.

 

[philosophical]

Goalposts moved again. I’m thinking of campaigning for thread bans for you.

I have not moved goalposts. The fact that others say I have been banging on about the same thing for years indicates how consistent I have been.

 

[philosophical]

This makes no sense

If somebody deliberately burns your house down then I am less inclined to believe them when they say they didn't mean it and more inclined to survey the smoking ruin.

 

[Pickman's model]

You offered to provide the evidence. I didn't demand it of you. So I await the results of all your research clearly indicating the issues pertaining to the land border in Ireland published and made widely available to everybody during the leave/remain campaign.
Go for it and make good your offer.
I will help you by suggesting that there is a video of Theresa May mentioning the issue...So you now have that to get you started.

Yeh I'm still out but here's one for now

 

[andysays]

Goalposts moved again. I’m thinking of campaigning for thread bans for you.

Either than or restricting him to his very own thread where he can drone on about the border to his heart's content.

I've got him on ignore again now but this thread is more or less pointless while he's posting.

 

[philosophical]

Yeh I'm still out but here's one for nowView attachment 277330

Keep going.
If your contention is that everybody clearly knew, or ought to have known, that a vote to leave would have serious and damaging consequences for the land border in Ireland, because the sources you cite were widespread and embedded, yet happily voted for that damage then it indicates their depth of cuntishness to me.
And with the knowledge of something like the necessity of a controlled border after a vote to leave we have no land border and the dogs dinner of the Northern Ireland protocol.
I don’t know how you gather your evidence by the way, it looks as if you have simply typed in ‘Ireland’ and ‘Border’ into a search engine or document of some kind (judging by the yellow highlights) and it has thrown up something partial and incomplete.
Perhaps you can complete the paragraph that reads ‘…the EU that would allow trade to continue unhindered across the border with Ireland. Boris Johnson the London Mayor who has become a leading…’ because as linked it makes no sense.

 

[Pickman's model]

Keep going.
If your contention is that everybody clearly knew, or ought to have known, that a vote to leave would have serious and damaging consequences for the land border in Ireland, because the sources you cite were widespread and embedded, yet happily voted for that damage then it indicates their depth of cuntishness to me.
And with the knowledge of something like the necessity of a controlled border after a vote to leave we have no land border and the dogs dinner of the Northern Ireland protocol.
I don’t know how you gather your evidence by the way, it looks as if you have simply typed in ‘Ireland’ and ‘Border’ into a search engine or document of some kind (judging by the yellow highlights) and it has thrown up something partial and incomplete.
Perhaps you can complete the paragraph that reads ‘…the EU that would allow trade to continue unhindered across the border with Ireland. Boris Johnson the London Mayor who has become a leading…’ because as linked it makes no sense.

Yeh I'm out atm doing something positive, I'm not sat at work there just to do your bidding

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[philosophical]

Yeh I'm out atm doing something positive, I'm not sat at work there just to do your bidding

It isn't really my bidding is it? I am following up on your offer.

 

[andysays]

Sorry to interrupt this thread dedicated solely to the issues of the Irish border, but here's another story which suggests that the shortage of lorry drivers and shortages of goods on supermarket shelves some may have experienced is not simply the result of "Brexit", and also that the government doesn't want to take the necessary steps to solve the problem.

Backlash against longer hours to ease lorry driver shortage

A temporary extension of lorry drivers' working hours has been met with backlash from the industry who say the government is applying a "sticking plaster" to driver shortage problems. HGV drivers can increase their daily driving limits from nine to 10 hours or change weekly rest patterns on Monday.

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps said the move would give flexibility to drivers to make slightly longer trips. But the Road Haulage Association said the move wouldn't make any difference. The RHA believes there is currently a shortfall of about 60,000 lorry drivers and said the relaxation on driving hour limits was a "sticking plaster".

 

[brogdale]

Population 38k

 

[Raheem]

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Population 38k

And not even a proper trade deal, I don't think, just an acknowledgement of the UK-EU one.

 

[brogdale]

And not even a proper trade deal, I don't think, just an acknowledgement of the UK-EU one.

Of course.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

View attachment 277572

Population 38k

Massive banking centre though.

 

[brogdale]

Massive banking centre though.

Even better.

 

[ska invita]

a little brexit anecdote; saw my friend this weekend, his brother moved to spain end of the 90s and overtime came to buy a small and cheap house in the outback...was living cheap there ever since... ffwd to brexit, wanted to apply to remain but doesnt have the provable income, so has been forced to move back to uk this year and is now living on a dank canal boat moored up under the a1 near bedford and is deeply deeply gutted and generally fucked.
it'll be interesting to hear stats as to how many people come back from the continent, though i guess there is no reason anyone would've noted his return so as to count it, so stats might not be available

 

[editor]

Here's the current business view on Brexit

More than eight in 10 business owners believe Brexit will have a long-term negative impact on trading with almost half reporting a hit from the UK’s exit from the European Union at the turn of this year, a survey conducted for i has found.

Conducted six months after Brexit, the survey of firms by tax and advisory firm Blick Rothenberg also found that 80 per cent of respondents found the Covid-19 pandemic has hit firms harder than Brexit, but that in the longer term the ending of free trade with the EU will have a more detrimental effect.

Alex Altmann, head of the Brexit advisory team at Blick Rothenberg, said: “While 47 per cent of the responders said that the first six months after Brexit had either a negative or very negative impact to their business, close to 80 per cent said the disruptions due to the pandemic had an even more negative impact to their business than Brexit.

Eight in 10 businesses believe Brexit will cause long-term hurt for UK economy

An exclusive poll for i shows that firms feel the Government had not done enough to support them through Brexit

inews.co.uk

 

[editor]

And in NI:

'It's two steps forward, 10 steps back:' Brexit, shifting demographics and familiar tensions stoke divisions in Northern Ireland

Niamh Burns is organizing a special 20-year reunion for her schoolmates this year. But while the accomplishments of the "Courageous Classes of 2001" are worth celebrating, the date they are commemorating is not.

edition.cnn.com

 

[Humberto]

There was no one offering what you wanted at the time though was there? Cameron and Osborne? Who?

 

[TopCat]

a little brexit anecdote; saw my friend this weekend, his brother moved to spain end of the 90s and overtime came to buy a small and cheap house in the outback...was living cheap there ever since... ffwd to brexit, wanted to apply to remain but doesnt have the provable income, so has been forced to move back to uk this year and is now living on a dank canal boat moored up under the a1 near bedford and is deeply deeply gutted and generally fucked.
it'll be interesting to hear stats as to how many people come back from the continent, though i guess there is no reason anyone would've noted his return so as to count it, so stats might not be available

Did they threaten to kick him out? I’m surprised as I know several people living in Spain with no residency who have had no hassle. Can’t leave for the uk easily but otherwise no problems.

 

[TopCat]

And in NI:

'It's two steps forward, 10 steps back:' Brexit, shifting demographics and familiar tensions stoke divisions in Northern Ireland

Niamh Burns is organizing a special 20-year reunion for her schoolmates this year. But while the accomplishments of the "Courageous Classes of 2001" are worth celebrating, the date they are commemorating is not.

edition.cnn.com

So loyalists remain cunts. Brexit is making them more cuntish if that were possible. So what. Fuck them. Soon just a footnote.