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[Supine]

Does anyone really think supermarkets will reduce the cost of wine by a few pence?

 

[TopCat]

Does anyone really think supermarkets will reduce the cost of wine by a few pence?

Yes.

 

[The39thStep]

Does anyone really think supermarkets will reduce the cost of wine by a few pence?

I’m sure ones in the EU would

 

[belboid]

Massively increased food miles yay!

I don’t think Australia will be moving anywhere.

 

[brogdale]

Will no-one think of the English vineyard owners?

 

[TopCat]

Will no-one think of the English vineyard owners?

I thing Denbigh will be fine.

 

[Flavour]

Mind you the shite that fills UK supermarket shelves is bloody nice, never had a bad bottle. Just recently McGuigan Black Label which is lovely.

Yeah, it's goon wine. Inoffensive and cheap. But I'm talking about actual good wine, of which there is plenty in Australia.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Australian wine is not shipped in bottles and as a result is more carbon efficient than French wine. It may not satisfy wine snobs, but if you are that snooty about wine, buy English.

 

[brogdale]

Australian wine is not shipped in bottles and as a result is more carbon efficient than French wine. It may not satisfy wine snobs, but if you are that snooty about wine, buy English.

I thought that Brexit supporters were supposed to be patriotic?
Surely English/Welsh/Scots or NI wine would be the default, not the imported stuff?

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I thought that Brexit supporters were supposed to be patriotic?

A lie put out by remainers to smear us, I drink mostly French or Italian lager and Chilean or Argentinian wine. Brexiteers are true global citizens, unlike these Little Europeans who cling to the EU and fear all outside its borders.

 

[brogdale]

A lie put out by remainers to smear us, I drink mostly French or Italian lager and Chilean or Argentinian wine. Brexiteers are true global citizens, unlike these Little Europeans who cling to the EU and fear all outside its borders.

You people; you literally hate your own country.

 

[two sheds]

Yeah, it's goon wine. Inoffensive and cheap. But I'm talking about actual good wine, of which there is plenty in Australia.

Can't argue with that since I've never tried them.

As I say I love the reasonably cheap ones I've had, as with Californian wine I've never had a bad bottle. I'm comparing it with the French and European wines I've had which generally seem to have an unpleasant bitter taste. Again though, I never spend a lot on wines so I can't talk for the expensive ones.

 

[The39thStep]

I thought that Brexit supporters were supposed to be patriotic?
Surely English/Welsh/Scots or NI wine would be the default, not the imported stuff?

Only in the same imaginary world where remainers refuse to buy U.K. produce cos it’s no longer in the EU . Hang on that gives me an idea for a post Brexit Cheadle High Street episode .

 

[TopCat]

I thought that Brexit supporters were supposed to be patriotic?
Surely English/Welsh/Scots or NI wine would be the default, not the imported stuff?

No.

 

[TopCat]

Only in the same imaginary world where remainers refuse to buy U.K. produce cos it’s no longer in the EU . Hang on that gives me an idea for a post Brexit Cheadle High Street episode .

We need more episodes.

 

[The39thStep]

We need more episodes.

Be a bit like Dads Army remake but with none of the old characters. I occasionally sketch out a few notes based on some posters on here though. Prob cause a riot.

 

[editor]

I don’t think Australia will be moving anywhere.

Say what?

 

[editor]

I thought that Brexit supporters were supposed to be patriotic?
Surely English/Welsh/Scots or NI wine would be the default, not the imported stuff?

If they care about the environment, having to buy food from half way across the world isn't generally seen as much of a win. But blue passport, yay!

 

[belboid]

Say what?

There won’t be ‘massively increased food miles’ because the difference is so small that barely any more will be imported. Major wine producers without tariff free wine are in South America and New Zealand. One of which is even further away.

 

[2hats]

I don’t think Australia will be moving anywhere.

I do (some several centimetres northwards per year, with a slight rotational component).

Australia Is Drifting So Fast GPS Can't Keep Up

A significant correction must be made by the end of the year for navigation technology to keep working smoothly.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[Flavour]

This thread is at its best when we derail into wine and geology

 

[belboid]

I do (some several centimetres northwards per year, with a slight rotational component).

Australia Is Drifting So Fast GPS Can't Keep Up

A significant correction must be made by the end of the year for navigation technology to keep working smoothly.

www.nationalgeographic.com

I trust airlines will be reducing prices accordingly.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

This thread is at its best when we derail into wine and geology

English wine, Albury Vineyard is the same hill as Denbies, however as Albury's slopes face SSW and Denbies' E, Albury wines are far superior, especially their sparking wines which are finer than anything I have encountered anywhere else in the world.

 

[belboid]

This thread is at its best when we derail into wine and geology

You missed the detours onto whether importing drugs will get more expensive.

 

[Flavour]

English wine, Albury Vineyard is the same hill as Denbies, however as Albury's slopes face SSW and Denbies' E, Albury wines are far superior, especially their sparking wines which are finer than anything I have encountered anywhere else in the world.

I am very eager to try some. Albury do wild fermentation and stuff too, which is bonus points. No industrially-produced yeasts in there, homogenizing palates!

 

[kabbes]

Albury wine is excellent but you’re paying the same price for a bottle as for a really excellent new world equivalent. The problem is scale. English wines are produced in too tiny a quantity to compete in price.

 

[Flavour]

Not all of us want economies of scale, kabbes , you nefarious social climber and harbinger of automation

 

[Raheem]

Australian wine is not shipped in bottles and as a result is more carbon efficient than French wine. It may not satisfy wine snobs, but if you are that snooty about wine, buy English.

I have a GCSE in maths, and I can tell you with some confidence that if one journey is, say, 2000% the distance of another, all else being equal, it is not going to be possible to make the longer journey more carbon efficient by reducing the weight of the cargo by a few percent.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I have a GCSE in maths, and I can tell you with some confidence that if one journey is, say, 2000% the distance of another, all else being equal, it is not going to be possible to make the longer journey more carbon efficient by reducing the weight of the cargo by a few percent.

Aussie wine arrives in 24,000ltr sacks, that's the equivalent of 32,000 glass bottles. More than a few percent...

 

[Raheem]

Aussie wine arrives in 24,000ltr sacks, that's the equivalent of 32,000 glass bottles. More than a few percent...

Whatever size the sacks are, the % weight of a bottle per 75cl of wine won't change. You can undoubtedly save a lot of carbon by shipping without bottles, but you can't possibly offset the additional carbon involved in shipping the wine twenty times the distance. Have a sit down with a paper and pencil, and you'll see what I mean.