gosub
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who -far eastern cobblers? Heard that story.
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(they're all from Northampton not Nottingham)
italian shoemakers, fashion labels' 'premium' ranges, etc.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Sorry.
ska invita
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this is an interesting read
www.redpepper.org.uk
too much to summarise
Red Pepper Magazine - Red Pepper
Red Pepper magazine is a quarterly publication and website of left politics and culture. We draw on feminist, green and anti-racist politics.
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Raheem
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Just sounds to me like you're talking cobblers.
gosub
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What Really Goes into "Made in Italy" Fashion? - The Fashion Law
Your $4,800 “Made in Italy” bag might not be exactly as it seems. This is one of points that has been raised with increasing frequency in recent years in connection with the pricey goods coming from the upper echelon of the fashion industry. Shadowy backstories of undocumented laborers, unseemly...
www.thefashionlaw.com
Ah yeah, that - well, we have our own similar issues re domestic manufacturing - cf all those pieces about Leicester sweatshops that broke last year. Bosses will exploit staff wherever they are, but at least we have some chance of stopping it via regulation & unionisation etc when it's made locallyWhat Really Goes into "Made in Italy" Fashion? - The Fashion Law
Your $4,800 “Made in Italy” bag might not be exactly as it seems. This is one of points that has been raised with increasing frequency in recent years in connection with the pricey goods coming from the upper echelon of the fashion industry. Shadowy backstories of undocumented laborers, unseemly...
gosub
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EU China trade deal means they'll be opening more.
Not forgotten the Leicester thing, shame quite liked Debenhams FUCK YOU BOOHOO
Flavour
hang the bankers
I've spoken about this before on here but yes there is a shocking amount of made in italy stuff which is made in sweatshops not much different from their east asian equivalents. the story of the industrial estates around the city of Prato in Tuscany v important but there are similar in the Veneto and Lombardy regions too.
that being said it is pretty great how you can still find so many consumer products in italy that are still made domestically (pillow cases, fruit juicers, desk globes, towels, plates and cutlery, to name just a few things in my own house... can't think of another country in europe where that would be possible)
that being said it is pretty great how you can still find so many consumer products in italy that are still made domestically (pillow cases, fruit juicers, desk globes, towels, plates and cutlery, to name just a few things in my own house... can't think of another country in europe where that would be possible)
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I can't think of any UK manufactured Vegetarian shoes.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
editor
hiraethified
I'm trying to work out where you're going with this argument. Is Brexit great because poorer people can no longer buy cheap imported shoes and are now free to look online at British made shoes that they can't afford?
It's obviously disgusting the way that capitalism exploits workers in poorer countries, but you'll be as guilty as everyone else of owning or using goods and services created from that system.
And UK businesses who rely on exporting their goods are likely to suffer anyway because of the increased red tape and hassle for customers.
So who's winning here, exactly?
gosub
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“The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms: The Play
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.”
― Terry Pratchett, Men at Arms: The Play
editor
hiraethified
Yes, if you're rich you can afford to buy the best and those things usually - but not always - outlive cheap stuff. But that's the only choice you get if you're poor.
I wonder how many people can afford to splash out £570 for a pair of Churches shoes - who are, incidentally, owned by luxury brand Prada, a multinational company who scored 'frighteningly low' on a forced labour index.
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
I assume from the lack of replies, that the answer is no.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Who would have thought that 70% of shoes sold in the States are Chinese?
UK clothes manufacturing is mostly for the luxury market because all the budget and mid-range manufacturers moved their production to the far east to improve their bottom line, but cheap clothes were made domestically before that, and could be again - maybe one way to make that happen is to have an international trade policy which encourages local manufacture rather than one that encourages companies to move their production elsewhere in the world.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
This is good - also UK
www.independent.co.uk
New EU ‘right to repair’ laws require technology to last for a decade
New devices will also have to come with repair manuals and be made in such a way that they can be dismantled using conventional tools
www.independent.co.uk
Lucy Fur
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And I've just been guilty of exactly that. I bought a Vox amp from a French store. They were out of stock, but said they could import from the UK within 2 weeks. It took 6. Then I noticed it was made in Vietnam. In hindsight, I should of researched French amp manufacturers. So maybe that is a Brexit benefit, we can all become more aware of how goods get to us and act more responsible. Not exactly sunny uplands/£350 mil for the NHS/ continued protection of workers rights though, is it.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Altberg in North Yorkshire make vegan walking boots..
philosophical
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Yeah. There are some specialist shoes, I even somehow bought some motorcycle boots made of kevlar once (made in Italy I think) and I am aware of Vegetarian Shoes in Brighton, but it looks as if the common or garden shoe shoes are made in Portugal mainly.
If you ask in a shoe shop (when they open) for shoes with no animal products the usual offering is canvas deck shoes type of thing.
If there was a regular shoe manufacturer in Northampton or elsewhere in the UK that produced one line of lace ups and one line of slip on sturdy everyday mens shoes, I would be delighted to know about them.
If you ask in a shoe shop (when they open) for shoes with no animal products the usual offering is canvas deck shoes type of thing.
If there was a regular shoe manufacturer in Northampton or elsewhere in the UK that produced one line of lace ups and one line of slip on sturdy everyday mens shoes, I would be delighted to know about them.
Question is, better for whom? Trade barriers are bad for people who want to import or export goods, but good for people who's market is mostly domestic.
I first realised that brexit was a real possibility when I did some canvassing for Labour in the local elections before the referendum - on a huge council estate, almost every person I spoke to was pro-brexit, and many of them were explicit that they were pro-brexit because it would 'bring jobs back' to the UK.
Whether and how this might happen is yet to shake out, but don't assume everyone shares your appetite for untrammelled free trade - for lots of people, it's something that's seen their livelihoods disappear to places where the workforce is cheaper year on year for decades.
Chz
Stark Raving Sane
The only things I've ever worn that don't ruin my feet are GT-2000s. They come from Vietnam, but I don't have a lot of choice in the matter.
I mean, I'm sure there are others but then we're back to shuffling stock around the globe just so I can try it on again.
ska invita
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