The big Brexit thread - news, updates and discussion

[ViolentPanda]

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried!

Yes I could!

 

[TopCat]

Yes I could!

Smoked eel is delicious. It has the right amount of fat.

 

[Pickman's model]

Smoked eel is delicious. It has the right amount of fat.

yeh, it's good. very good. but it's not as delicious as a kipper.

 

[seeformiles]

As someone who has UC teaching me to suck eggs, I’ve noticed how companies are already advertising 40+ hour weeks and demanding ludicrous qualifications for rock bottom wages.
#Sovereignty

 

[Badgers]

Michael Gove Admits Northern Ireland Post-Brexit Trade Disruption Is Not Just 'Teething Problems'

The problems facing British businesses trying to export goods to Northern Ireland are not simply 'teething problems', but 'significant issues', acc...

www.politicshome.com

The problems facing British businesses trying to export goods to Northern Ireland are not simply "teething problems", but "significant issues", according to Michael Gove, despite Boris Johnson's attempts to play down the disruption.

 

[editor]

As someone who has UC teaching me to suck eggs, I’ve noticed how companies are already advertising 40+ hour weeks and demanding ludicrous qualifications for rock bottom wages.
#Sovereignty

I thought Brexit was supposed to free us from the tyranny of Europe's meddling and improve everyone's working conditions?

Apart from those at the sharp end getting threatened in the ports, of course.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Not quite looking onwards but this is a really good interview with Philip Hammond about brexit and what happened in government at the time:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/interview-pdf/?personid=42190

 

[A380]

1st April IIRC before proper customs procedures kick in
ETA: Irish Sea border: What will happen once the grace periods end?

Talks with the EU? Good luck with that.
Whats the alternative though here? What to talk about exactly? What are the DUP proposing?

A return to 1956?

 

[Pickman's model]

A return to 1956?

There's some great music coming up in a couple of years then

 

[A380]

There's some great music coming up in a couple of years then

1958- Rocking Robin?

 

[gosub]

Tempting though it might be to suggest that this is simply a case of one of the EU's top bureaucrats suddenly and inexplicably getting too big for their boots, I'm not convinced that's really a complete explanation.

But go on claiming this is all about some aberrant (auto suggest wanted to make that "abhorrent", funnily enough) individual behaviour rather than a more deep seated structural problem if it makes you feel better.

Furious Germany will not forget EU vaccine disaster when Brussels seeks more bailout money (telegraph.co.uk)

 

[Flavour]

The brexit/gfa paradox keeps on giving. I hope it creates a Belfast Boom as it gets to take advantage of its unique position of having fingers in both pies. Lots of talk of finance abandoning the City of London - I say next stop Falls Road!

 

[Artaxerxes]

Fucking vandalizing twats if this happens

15 million baby bees could be seized and burned over Brexit rules

British beekeeper told his order of baby Italian bees would be destroyed if he tried to import them

www.independent.co.uk

We don't need no Italian bees coming over here fertilizing our plants with their forrin ways.


We might actually if the Conservatives do allow neonicotinoids to be used again as they are angling to do.

 

[Yossarian]

There's some great music coming up in a couple of years then

Conditions seem ripe for a skiffle revival.

 

[mx wcfc]

We don't need no Italian bees coming over here fertilizing our plants with their forrin ways.


We might actually if the Conservatives do allow neonicotinoids to be used again as they are angling to do.

Agreed on the Tories allowing nocotinoids (sp?) wholeheartedly.

There is an issue over whether imported bees could carry diseases that could wipe out "our" bees with diseases.

It's the same shit with trees. We only have Ash "die back" because we couldn't stop imports of trees from the EU, and because UK businesses wanted to import trees cos that was easier than growing them here.

We are an Island. we can stop biological imports fucking us.

(oh, maybe we could have done that with covid)

 

[two sheds]

yes good point

 

[editor]

A friend told me tonight that he bought a £450 mixer from Thomann.de but was hit with an additional £150 fee from the courier when it arrived last week.
So struggling musicians/DJs with low funds can now kiss goodbye to what used to a decent source of competitively priced gear.


#brexitwinningagain

 

[Flavour]

Agreed on the Tories allowing nocotinoids (sp?) wholeheartedly.

Neonicotinoids. Helps if you think of it as neo nicotine, which is, essentially, what it is

 

[TopCat]

As someone who has UC teaching me to suck eggs, I’ve noticed how companies are already advertising 40+ hour weeks and demanding ludicrous qualifications for rock bottom wages.
#Sovereignty

This is new?

 

[TopCat]

A friend told me tonight that he bought a £450 mixer from Thomann.de but was hit with an additional £150 fee from the courier when it arrived last week.
So struggling musicians/DJs with low funds can now kiss goodbye to what used to a decent source of competitively priced gear.


#brexitwinningagain

#notallaboutmusicians

 

[mojo pixy]

#secondhandgearisbetterfortheplanetanyway
#nottomentionthesweatshopswherecomponentsaremade

 

[editor]

#secondhandgearisbetterfortheplanetanyway
#nottomentionthesweatshopswherecomponentsaremade

#drippingwithrighteoushypocrisy

 

[editor]

#notallaboutmusicians

Struggling DJ actually, but you've made it clear you don't give much of a fuck about them.

 

[bimble]

#notallaboutmusicians

True, sod the musicians most of them are probably Remoaners anyway.

But who do you think is having a better time so far due to brexit though, or will be soon if not quite yet.
Maybe lawyers, maybe bankers in America, and the haddock marketing board.
Anyone else?

 

[editor]

#notallaboutmusicians

Yes, that's right. It's about ordinary people finding themselves being hit with extra financial penalties or hardships. Including those working in the music/DJ/entertainment business.

 

[MickiQ]

The brexit/gfa paradox keeps on giving. I hope it creates a Belfast Boom as it gets to take advantage of its unique position of having fingers in both pies. Lots of talk of finance abandoning the City of London - I say next stop Falls Road!

I strongly suspect once enough people start to think that Scottish independence may about to become a real thing, there will be an unseemly rush to relocate to Edinburgh

1st April IIRC before proper customs procedures kick in
ETA: Irish Sea border: What will happen once the grace periods end?

Talks with the EU? Good luck with that.
Whats the alternative though here? What to talk about exactly? What are the DUP proposing?

Turning back the clock. The DUP have shot themselves massively in the foot here, they seemed to have supported Brexit because Sinn Fein opposed it without thinking their position through. An error further compounded by the fact that once he had got his massive majority, BoZo sold them down the river without a thought. Guess no matter how much they may deny it, they can see the writing on the wall same as everyone else.
Same with the numbnuts threatening the staff at the customs post, what do they think they can achieve? That the EU/UK will sit down and completely renegotiate the deal to suit them? If companies can't get their products into NI because of lack of customs facilities, they will just stop sending them. Anyone care to take a guess where their NI customers will then turn to as a source.

 

[kabbes]

True, sod the musicians most of them are probably Remoaners anyway.

But who do you think is having a better time so far due to brexit though, or will be soon if not quite yet.
Maybe lawyers, maybe bankers in America, and the haddock marketing board.
Anyone else?

How are you defining “better time” and do you think that definition would be universally shared?

 

[bimble]

How are you defining “better time” and do you think that definition would be universally shared?

I’d take any definition of having a better time tbh.
Didn’t have specifics in mind, just something like finding everyday life and or work in some way better or easier as a result of the brexit.
Fish don’t count though only humans.

 

[MickiQ]

This is new?

This isn't new no but while it was far from perfect, EU legislation did have some effect especially in large multinationals where its often easier and cheaper to follow at least the words of the laws rather than get creative about bending them. Just because some people were shat on despite the spirit of the legislation is no reason to get rid of it so even more people can be shat on legally.

 

[kabbes]

I’d take any definition of having a better time tbh.
Didn’t have specifics in mind, just something like finding everyday life and or work in some way better or easier as a result of the brexit.
Fish don’t count though only humans.

In that case, all those who identified negative affect as a result of being anxious that the EU were acting as cultural imperators are better off.