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[The39thStep]

i've seen william's pear brandy with a pear in the bottle, that's very good

Had a bottle of mezcal that had a worm in it

 

[brogdale]

Well yes, the fact that Farage was a member of the EU's "parliament" kind of gives you clue about its import.

 

[Pickman's model]

Had a bottle of mezcal that had a worm in it

Yeh I had that once too

 

[Pickman's model]

No apple in this bottle, just the drink. Yes, brandy that tastes of apples My favourite winter drink, whether French or English. I have wondered if it gets made in Ireland but only idly curious, I've never looked for it.

If you go to the knockmealdown mountains in the autumn you may see fires on the hillsides where bootleggers are distilling the apple moonshine

 

[Pickman's model]

Well yes, the fact that Farage was a member of the EU's "parliament" kind of gives you clue about its import.

As the fact lembit opik being a member of the westminster parliament does about that nefandous institution's standing

 

[Pickman's model]

Aside from the neoliberal reality of (economic) power, in reality, lying beyond national or supra-national states, there are significant and substantial differences between the Parliaments of the EU and UK. The first and most obvious one being that the UK Parliament is an actual parliament.

Perry Anderson's Part 2 of his LRB trilogy did a good job of showing the EU body for what it is; at best a ratifying body for real political decisions taken elsewhere:

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The deliberately determined chronic democratic deficit of the EU Parliament always seemed to me to be one of the stronger elements of the 'Leave' arguments.

One house of the westminster parliament is composed of bishops and political appointees so please don't carry on about democratic deficits in Brussels being so awful when you've said very little about the great democratic chasm here

Parliament means talking shop so the euro parliament very much a parliament

 

[ska invita]

Had a bottle of mezcal that had a worm in it

once had someone bring back a bottle of mezcal from mexico called Pensamiento, made "by monks" supposedly - looked quite home brew, budget lable - had a worm in it - clear liquid
it was a half bottle - drank it with my friend, we had half the worm each - mildly tripped out - definitely some psychedelic edge to it - would love another bottle to check!

 

[The39thStep]

once had someone bring back a bottle of mezcal from mexico called Pensamiento, made "by monks" supposedly - looked quite home brew, budget lable - had a worm in it - clear liquid
it was a half bottle - drank it with my friend, we had half the worm each - mildly tripped out - definitely some psychedelic edge to it - would love another bottle to check!

I've heard different things about the worm, one like you aid and the other view is that it is the mezcal itself. Apparently Rpbert Mitchum had a passion for mezcal.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

ask for calvados next time you're in a well-stocked bar. it's very pleasant.

Calvados is my very favourite spirit, however unlike vodka, half a bottle and I'm on the floor.

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we're about halfway there. and about 10-15% of the population have had the disease (the mail in december reported 9% and things have been worse since there), so this death rate is at least comparable to the spanish flu.

Let's not forget that whilst turning the UK's Covid response in to a mass slaughter they took time out in order to wreck what's left of the economy with their crappy Brexit business

 

[brogdale]

One house of the westminster parliament is composed of bishops and political appointees so please don't carry on about democratic deficits in Brussels being so awful when you've said very little about the great democratic chasm here

Parliament means talking shop so the euro parliament very much a parliament

Always happy to talk about the democratic deficits of the UK's neoliberal consolidator state but, in this instance, the EU parliament's vote on tax havens revealed again how the actual policy decisions of the supra state are made at some remove from the directly elected body.

 

[maomao]

Had a bottle of mezcal that had a worm in it

I once drank half a bottle of beer before I realised it had a fag end in it. Not quite as classy, just wanted to chip in.

 

[The39thStep]

I once drank half a bottle of beer before I realised it had a fag end in it. Not quite as classy, just wanted to chip in.

Used to be an occupational hazard with Watney’s Party Sevens

 

[Pickman's model]

Always happy to talk about the democratic deficits of the UK's neoliberal consolidator state but, in this instance, the EU parliament's vote on tax havens revealed again how the actual policy decisions of the supra state are made at some remove from the directly elected body.

Yeh policy decisions always are. The government's brexit policy was made (if you can call it that) far from the chamber of the hoc. Indeed the role of the UK parliament in determining policy seems loose at best

 

[brogdale]

Yeh policy decisions always are. The government's brexit policy was made (if you can call it that) far from the chamber of the hoc. Indeed the role of the UK parliament in determining policy seems loose at best

Yep, I'm not spending my Saturday evening defending the UK state; as I said upthread, it always was a what flavour of shit sandwich "choice".

 

[ska invita]

I once drank half a bottle of beer before I realised it had a fag end in it. Not quite as classy, just wanted to chip in.

i once ate an oven pizza and when i got near the end i realised id cooked it on its styrofoam base and the styrofoam had melted into the crust. i hope this won't happen again now we've left the EU.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yep, I'm not spending my Saturday evening defending the UK state; as I said upthread, it always was a what flour of shit sandwich "choice".

So what do you propose we should do now to get a better tasting sarnie?

 

[Pickman's model]

i once ate an oven pizza and when i got near the end i realised id cooked it on its styrofoam base and the styrofoam had melted into the crust. i hope this won't happen again now we've left the EU.

No longer shall we eat the tasty and nutritious styrofoam bases

 

[brogdale]

So what do you propose we should do now to get a better tasting sarnie?

Anarcho-communism.

 

[Smangus]

Anarcho-communism.

Not sure that will work as well as our wonderous parliament and god ordained monarch...

 

[Artaxerxes]

How I learned to stop worrying and tour the UK instead of Europe. One for editor

Breaking down touring around Europe post brexit by some bloke called Fish

 

[prunus]

People who still support brexit on here: what set of circumstances or kind of thing could come to pass that would make you change your mind about brexit being a good idea? I am genuinely interested.

Is this kind of thing enough?

Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

 

[mojo pixy]

I really shouldn't chime in here but...
but...
but...
ah fuck it.

It's not leaving the EU which is a bad idea, in itself. The EU is awful and frankly we're well shot of it.
The bad idea is having it done by the people who are doing it. If anything fucks the UK, it will be those people. Not leaving the EU.

There tis, i done a pinion

 

[ska invita]

People who still support brexit on here: what set of circumstances or kind of thing could come to pass that would make you change your mind about brexit being a good idea? I am genuinely interested.

Is this kind of thing enough?

Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

i wonder what the scale of jobs moved to the EU / tax loss will come to be?
also this is something that only larger companies can do really, small business will have to just suck it up - or spit it out more likely

 

[mojo pixy]

Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

From that, the very first paragraph...

British businesses that export to the continent are being encouraged by government trade advisers to set up separate companies inside the EU in order to get around extra charges, paperwork and taxes resulting from Brexit/...

It's the lying, craven, amoral, self-serving bullies in charge of this shit show that are the problem. Not the shitshow they created as much as the fact they just don't care .. they don't even deny it's a shitshow, they just don't give a fuck. Throw the forms in the bin ffs.

 

[mauvais]

People who still support brexit on here: what set of circumstances or kind of thing could come to pass that would make you change your mind about brexit being a good idea?

Having to live here?

 

[editor]

People who still support brexit on here: what set of circumstances or kind of thing could come to pass that would make you change your mind about brexit being a good idea? I am genuinely interested.

Is this kind of thing enough?

Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

Exactly what happened to us once:

At the border crossings the customs officers are totally within their rights to ask for an entire truck or trailer to be unloaded and examined to see if it matches the carnet documents

 

[teqniq]

I feel that we're a long way past 'you couldn't make this shit up' but still....

UK unveils aid for fishing industry, reeling from post-Brexit checks

Britain unveiled an extra 23 million pounds of funding on Tuesday to compensate fishing businesses which have seen their exports to mainland Europe throttled by the introduction of post-Brexit checks.

www.reuters.com

 

[TopCat]

As the fact lembit opik being a member of the westminster parliament does about that nefandous institution's standing

Lembit is still an MP?

 

[TopCat]

Yesterday, as the impact of leaving the single market and customs union on 1 January became ever more clear, the Financial Times reported that the cost of a £12 bottle of wine in UK shops could rise by up to £1.50 a bottle because of the extra bureaucracy and charges affecting imports.

 

[Flavour]

i once ate an oven pizza and when i got near the end i realised id cooked it on its styrofoam base and the styrofoam had melted into the crust. i hope this won't happen again now we've left the EU.

Jesus fucking christ mate that is awful. I would need years of therapy to get over something like that.