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TopCat said:
But if the article about a 200 hundred quid coat from the EU now costing 280 is true, coats will be made here again soon enough.
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Not if the cost to produce is £300.

Or maybe UK workers enjoying the same conditions as those in Bangladesh or Vietnam? That's something to look forward to...
 
gosub said:
So Brexit has had nothing to do with vaccines being cleared in the UK but not in EU and Brexit has had nothing to do with UK being in receipt of vaccines ahead of the EU's pooled approach. Bollocks
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So tell us - in what way was Brexit responsible?
 
contadino said:
Not if the cost to produce is £300.

Or maybe UK workers enjoying the same conditions as those in Bangladesh or Vietnam? That's something to look forward to...
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Well if the coat was made under those conditions then noone should be buying it, whatever country the workers are in.
 
If you are a major importer and order 10000 coats over my 1 coat, I suspect the rules for them will be very different.

Who was it that thought its totally sensible to get the person you're buying from in another country to pay UK tax?
 
Winot said:
So tell us - in what way was Brexit responsible?
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The UK regulator Brexit has created is more willing to take Big Pharma's data at face value which is why UK has ended up clearing more vaccines more quickly. I think it has also made EU more dot every I cross every t with regards the Oxford vaccine than it would have been had it been developed by reserach scientists at one of the EU's most prestigious University's.

Pooled approach is 20-33 % cheaper per dose, but paying for priority makes more sense given the economic fallout from every other aspect of the pandemic. Pooled approach is fraying at the edges as a result. Not particularly into glorifying queue barging, fortunately the vaccine thing adds another story. UK approach is leading to 300million Indians predicted to be vaccinated by mid July and is already arriving in Bhutan,, Maldives... The whloe Brexit/ Covd thing looks to have got the UK back into pharma manufacter as well. World Service was saying last summer we only really had r&d production capacity, capable of 2litres of the stuff. Read in an article on the fire at the New Delhi plant that all the UK is being made here so must be new capacity.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
Nissan announced this morning that they are transferring the manufacture of Leaf batteries from Japan to Sunderland as a direct result of Brexit.
www.autocar.co.uk

Nissan to build new Qashqai and Juke EVs in Sunderland | Autocar

Investment of up to £2 billion means UK plant will go full-EV with two radical new models joining next-gen Leaf
www.autocar.co.uk www.autocar.co.uk
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They've been able to adapt their supply chain to meet the country of origin requirements so yes it's sort of because of brexit but there was nothing stopping them from moving battery production pre brexit. They are refering to competitive advantage against other UK based firms who aren't able to manufacture batteries here, making meeting the terms of the brexit deal harder / more costly. Not sure that's such good news.

Average investment in UK motor industry over the last 4 years is down 71% on the average for the previous 5 (yes lots of other factors are available). We have managed to hold on to a factory we already had but what happens next isn't so clear. We don't have much car battery production capacity here. 1.9 gigawatt hours at the Sunderland plant, though no idea what else but certainly nothing large scale. We have one group currently raising funds, mostly secured, for a manufacturing plant, 10 gigawatt hours then 20 more. Tesla chose to manufacture in the EU and a Swedish company will have 32 gigawatt hour annual capacity by 2023. There are at least a couple of other major manufacturers setting up in EU countries.

I can't see how brexit makes us more attractive to battery manufacturers and without battery capacity we won't have a motor industry long term.
 
brogdale said:
Cracking example of the "which favour of shit sandwich would you like?" binary "choice" we were offered:

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All the while the UK was in the club; UK jurisdiction tax havens...fine; now the UK has left...MEPs vote to invite the 27 to add them to the blacklist.

Ah the integrity of it all.
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The Cayman Islands were on the blacklist for a few months last year, but then they were removed. Presumably, they are completely reformed now. The system works!
 
brogdale said:
Yeah, maybe...but a nice little example of the chronic democratic deficit at the heart of the entity...the Parliament votes, but the actual decision will be made elsewhere. The EU in a nutshell.
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article with more detail here
www.maltatoday.com.mt

EU tax haven blacklist not catching the worst offenders

“By calling the EU list of tax havens ‘confusing and inefficient’, the Parliament tells it like it is. While the list can be a good tool, member states forgot something when composing it: actual tax havens”
www.maltatoday.com.mt www.maltatoday.com.mt
 
gosub said:
The UK regulator Brexit has created is more willing to take Big Pharma's data at face value which is why UK has ended up clearing more vaccines more quickly. I think it has also made EU more dot every I cross every t with regards the Oxford vaccine than it would have been had it been developed by reserach scientists at one of the EU's most prestigious University's.

Pooled approach is 20-33 % cheaper per dose, but paying for priority makes more sense given the economic fallout from every other aspect of the pandemic. Pooled approach is fraying at the edges as a result. Not particularly into glorifying queue barging, fortunately the vaccine thing adds another story. UK approach is leading to 300million Indians predicted to be vaccinated by mid July and is already arriving in Bhutan,, Maldives... The whloe Brexit/ Covd thing looks to have got the UK back into pharma manufacter as well. World Service was saying last summer we only really had r&d production capacity, capable of 2litres of the stuff. Read in an article on the fire at the New Delhi plant that all the UK is being made here so must be new capacity.
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That is all absolutely completely wrong I'm afraid :D
 
I thought the reason the UK approved vaccines quicker was because the data was examined at every stage of development rather than being left to the end like the Europeans do. so its a question of process not anything else.
 
Smangus said:
I thought the reason the UK approved vaccines quicker was because the data was examined at every stage of development rather than being left to the end like the Europeans do. so its a question of process not anything else.
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A change in process afforded by leaving the eu.
 
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