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[TopCat]

We used to make so many brands right here in the UK. Lots of companies showed no loyalty to their workforces and hived off production to ultra low wage countries whilst still trading off of their UK heritage.

All in the name of profit.

Well many of those same brands will either give up on the UK market (as they will cost more) or relocate production back to the UK.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

We used to make so many brands right here in the UK. Lots of companies showed no loyalty to their workforces and hived off production to ultra low wage countries whilst still trading off of their UK heritage.

All in the name of profit.

Well many of those same brands will either give up on the UK market (as they will cost more) or relocate production back to the UK.

The hypocrisy of Burberry's 'Made in Britain' appeal | Carole Cadwalladr

Carole Cadwalladr: How has the 'luxury brand' got the audacity to trade on its pride in Britishness when most of its clothes are made abroad?

www.theguardian.com

 

[TopCat]

The hypocrisy of Burberry's 'Made in Britain' appeal | Carole Cadwalladr

Carole Cadwalladr: How has the 'luxury brand' got the audacity to trade on its pride in Britishness when most of its clothes are made abroad?

www.theguardian.com

See so many shoe makers and even some Saville Row suits.

 

[TopCat]

But if the article about a 200 hundred quid coat from the EU now costing 280 is true, coats will be made here again soon enough.

 

[Artaxerxes]

It's hard as so much isn't fully made in one country anymore, my current walking coat is a Aigle shooting jacket, Aigle is French but the jacket was made in Bagladesh. It is coming up for 7 years old and needs replacing, I have seen a nice Alan Paine replacement, Alan Paine are English, founded in Godalming no less, but of course their shit is made in the East too. Also looking for a new bike, narrowed it down to a Commencal (Andorra), Propain (Germany) or Whyte (England). However all of these the majority of the components, including the frames are made in the East (Taiwan mostly for frames). Seems the only way to buy British now is to buy a Nissan...

Even the Nissan is mostly reassembled components.

I've just googled clothing made in the UK and there's a few things out there but not much that isn't above 200 quid and even less that doesn't have a whiff of tweed or suits about it.

Menswear Brands Made in Britain [Updated 2024]

Stay on top of your sartorial game and support UK design and manufacturing by purchasing stylish, quality UK clothing for men.

makeitbritish.co.uk

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Even the Nissan is mostly reassembled components.

Nissan announced this morning that they are transferring the manufacture of Leaf batteries from Japan to Sunderland as a direct result of Brexit.

Nissan to build new Qashqai and Juke EVs in Sunderland | Autocar

Investment of up to £2 billion means UK plant will go full-EV with two radical new models joining next-gen Leaf

www.autocar.co.uk

 

[mwgdrwg]

Unbelievably petty:

UK and EU in row over bloc's diplomatic status - BBC News

The EU's top representative in London is not being given the same privileges as other ambassadors.

www.bbc.co.uk

It's all too believable, unfortunately. What a bunch of immature, childish, idiots

Project fear. Scaremongering saying it's going to be a disaster.
Here we are.
The welsh (is that a dragon or a turkey?) voted for leave, Hollyhead the only really big employer in the area is now deserted, Irish lorries are going direct, less risk and paperwork.

On the plus side, drugs should get a lot cheaper as they are just waving in the lorries to the UK at the moment. Looks like we are going to need them.

I didn't vote leave!

I live on the island, there's a massive miles-long contraflow on the A55 here, making it a real pain to drive to my nearest supermarket and town. Half the dual-carriageway is blocked off to be used as a lorry car park. The joke is (as you say) that the number of lorries has plummeted and it is so very quiet on the roads compared to pre-Brexit.

Holyhead was already one of the most deprived places in the UK, I didn't think it could actually get worse, but here we are.

 

[mojo pixy]

But if the article about a 200 hundred quid coat from the EU now costing 280 is true, coats will be made here again soon enough.

lightbulb moment

So that's why "no deal" was a serious possibility. The idea that WTO-rules tariffs on imported goods would give UK-based manufacturers a market to undercut with their tariff-free goods.

O yeah now you'll work hard you idle bastards!

 

[editor]

Another major triumph delivered by Brexit.

Adam Mansell, boss of the UK Fashion & Textile Association (UKFT), said it's "cheaper for retailers to write off the cost of the goods than dealing with it all, either abandoning or potentially burning them."
Since 1 January, lots of European customers have been presented with an unexpected customs invoice when signing for goods they've ordered from the UK. These new customs charges are a result of the new EU trade deal with the UK.


"It's part of the ongoing small print of the deal," said Mr Mansell. "If you're in Germany and buying goods from the UK, you as the German customer are the importer bringing goods into the EU.
"You then have a courier company knocking on the door giving you a customs clearance invoice that you need to pay to receive your goods."

Ulla Vitting Richards runs her sustainable fashion brand VILDNIS from the UK. She has stopped exporting to her fastest growing market, the EU, because of the new customs processes.
"I've been involved in logistics before. I expected it to be bad and I am used to shipping to the USA which is difficult. But this is just mind-blowing," she said.
"Every day there is another layer. In the first two weeks we couldn't get answers. For two years we were told to get ready for Brexit. But for these we couldn't prepare."
She added: "I don't think we can increase prices but we might just have to say that we can't make the business with the EU work. It is a real shame. There is a huge interest in sustainable fashion in Europe and we might have to walk away from it."

And let's take this jobs to Germany:

Ulla did speak with the Department for International Trade for help and advice. She was told that setting up a subsidiary distribution hub in Europe might be a good idea: "He told me we'd be best off moving stock to a warehouse in Germany and get them to handle it."

Brexit: Retailers warn they could burn goods stuck in EU

UK retailers may abandon goods EU customers want to return because it is cheaper than bringing them home.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TopCat]

Another major triumph delivered by Brexit.



And let's take this jobs to Germany:

Brexit: Retailers warn they could burn goods stuck in EU

UK retailers may abandon goods EU customers want to return because it is cheaper than bringing them home.

www.bbc.co.uk

So this is about customer returns?

 

[editor]

So this is about customer returns?

Try reading the article, It's about customers being asked to pay hefty and unaffordable additional import fees, and small businesses being utterly shafted because of all the pointless red tape brought on by shitty Brexit. Perhaps you'll start to care when it's you being affected.

Britons buying from EU websites hit with £100 customs bills
Parcel firms demanding payment before delivering items ordered from European websites since Brexit


Since 1 January, people buying goods from the EU – and vice versa – have faced import charges. The new rules have put thousands of specialist online businesses at risk as consumers on both sides of the Channel balk at having to pay the hefty import fees.

The UK government says European companies supplying goods valued at up to £135 direct to British buyers are supposed to collect VAT at the item’s prevailing rate – in most cases 20% – at the point of purchase. The move was branded “ludicrous” by Assen-based Dutch Bike Bits, which is among the firms that has halted all sales to the UK.

Online marketplaces such as Amazon collect the VAT on the retailer’s behalf and the item from Europe can be sent as before. However, UK consumers who have ordered items direct have been hit by the charges.

In one case the Guardian is aware of, a £35 order for running gear attracted a £20.59 demand by the courier before it could be delivered.

UK-based buyers placing orders of more than £135 with European websites also face having to pay import duties.

Britons buying from EU websites hit with £100 customs bills

Parcel firms demanding payment before delivering items ordered from European websites since Brexit

www.theguardian.com

 

[MickiQ]

Brexit has given competitive edge on car battery tariffs, says Nissan chief

Owner of UK’s largest car factory to push ahead with new Qashqai and says UK leaving the EU has been positive for the company

www.theguardian.com

Claiming this is a benefit of Brexit is a bit disingenuous, the idea that the whole thing has been conceived and planned out in the last four weeks (since the deal was signed) is definitely a stretch. Whilst welcome there is no reason to believe it wouldn't have happened if we had stayed in the EU, whereas signing a deal rather than going for no-deal has prevented it from not happening. So far there are no signs at all of positives that are purely down to Brexit.

 

[gosub]

Claiming this is a benefit of Brexit is a bit disingenuous, the idea that the whole thing has been conceived and planned out in the last four weeks (since the deal was signed) is definitely a stretch. Whilst welcome there is no reason to believe it wouldn't have happened if we had stayed in the EU, whereas signing a deal rather than going for no-deal has prevented it from not happening. So far there are no signs at all of positives that are purely down to Brexit.

You know how the 20th Century oil was a bit important and had a bit of an influence on how the world went round. I sort of get the feeling C21 it be thorophos batteries. And you know how in that oil bit Brent crude was a quality product, Cornish thorium appears to be similar. AND looks like be outside EU tarriff control.

Np signs at all of positive that are purely down to Brexit you say...What are you attributing EU's handling of the Astra Zenica vaccine to? (granted shows of petty petulance are hardly positive)

 

[TopCat]

Try reading the article, It's about customers being asked to pay hefty and unaffordable additional import fees, and small businesses being utterly shafted because of all the pointless red tape brought on by shitty Brexit. Perhaps you'll start to care when it's you being affected.

You quoted a different guardian article entirely.

 

[Pickman's model]

You quoted a different guardian article entirely.

brexit blindness

 

[gosub]

Airbus have been very quiet. Its been 3 weeks since they welcomed the deal and said they would analyse the consequences

 

[editor]

You quoted a different guardian article entirely.

Yet both detail the exact same problem relating to Brexit.

 

[The39thStep]

Is this still on TV?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I would be as sceptical of the honesty of bosses of multinationals citing brexit as a reason for investment in the UK now as I was when those same bosses of multinationals previously cited brexit as a reason not to invest. A lot of this is cynical positioning in order to get what they want from the government.

 

[gosub]

Is this still on TV?
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the program or the presenter?

 

[The39thStep]

the program or the presenter?

The latter. I was thinking perhaps there was a market for a post Brexit version

 

[Pickman's model]

The latter. I was thinking perhaps there was a market for a post Brexit version

the european commission paid for her to make a spoof brexit version of 'weakest link' which is floating round diplomatic circles in brussels where there's a boris johnson lookalike wearing a union jack waistcoat flunking the questions asked and finally being told 'you are the weakest link, goodbye'.

 

[The39thStep]

the european commission paid for her to make a spoof brexit version of 'weakest link' which is floating round diplomatic circles in brussels where there's a boris johnson lookalike wearing a union jack waistcoat flunking the questions asked and finally being told 'you are the weakest link, goodbye'.

 

[MickiQ]

You know how the 20th Century oil was a bit important and had a bit of an influence on how the world went round. I sort of get the feeling C21 it be thorophos batteries. And you know how in that oil bit Brent crude was a quality product, Cornish thorium appears to be similar. AND looks like be outside EU tarriff control.

Np signs at all of positive that are purely down to Brexit you say...What are you attributing EU's handling of the Astra Zenica vaccine to? (granted shows of petty petulance are hardly positive)

I would attribute the EU's handling of vaccination down to the clumsy bureacracy that seems to handicap so much of what the EU does. But what has that got to do either positive or negative with Brexit? Anymore than the fact that the UK seems to be making decent progress on vaccination is anything to do with Brexit either.

 

[gosub]

I would attribute the EU's handling of vaccination down to the clumsy bureacracy that seems to handicap so much of what the EU does. But what has that got to do either positive or negative with Brexit? Anymore than the fact that the UK seems to be making decent progress on vaccination is anything to do with Brexit either.

So Brexit has had nothing to do with vaccines being cleared in the UK but not in EU and Brexit has had nothing to do with UK being in receipt of vaccines ahead of the EU's pooled approach. Bollocks

 

[Artaxerxes]

I would be as sceptical of the honesty of bosses of multinationals citing brexit as a reason for investment in the UK now as I was when those same bosses of multinationals previously cited brexit as a reason not to invest. A lot of this is cynical positioning in order to get what they want from the government.

At this point I'd rather Nissan fuck off tbh because they've been pissing about threatening to leave or promising to stay for decades.

 

[TopCat]

At this point I'd rather Nissan fuck off tbh because they've been pissing about threatening to leave or promising to stay for decades.

Punish those leave voters eh?

 

[Artaxerxes]

Punish those leave voters eh?

Not really, just fed up of Nissan weaponising jobs to get what it wants.

 

[gosub]

Not really, just fed up of Nissan weaponising jobs to get what it wants.

They were a lot less guilty of that than other manufacturers during the Brexit referendum

 

[Pickman's model]

They were a lot less guilty of that than other manufacturers during the Brexit referendum

for six months they took a break while other companies stepped up to take their place