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[ska invita]

i dont drink wine but i presume costs will go up on any drink coming in from the eu
calvados!!! beligan beers? prosecco?
wine is pretty cheap these days - i remember the first time i got pissed was on bulgrain wine that cost £3.5 0 a bottle. it probably costs £4 pre brexit, even though more than three decades have passed

Jesus fucking christ mate that is awful. I would need years of therapy to get over something like that.

yeah i was upset, not least as for health reasons i go out of my way to avoid plastics with food, never microwave a plastic dish , no plastic spatulas etc
just eat styrofoam instead lol
its amazing how i couldnt taste it

 

[TopCat]

The Chablis in my local shop still costs a tenner a bottle. I dont drink it but once or twice a year but I will keep an eye out for price rises for essential commodities like this.

 

[mojo pixy]

The price of imported EU wines may rise but I guarantee our good old traditional UK whines will be cheaper than ever

 

[ska invita]

The price of imported EU wines may rise but I guarantee our good old traditional UK whines will be cheaper than ever

im surprised "you couldnt make it up" wasnt trending on twitter yesterday

 

[TopCat]

Will the French leave the grapes on the vine for want of the UK market?

 

[mojo pixy]

Ah they'll only go sour (the grapes, not the French. Probably)

 

[TopCat]

We will always have turbocider though.

 

[mojo pixy]

Alcoholic energy drinks with red, white and blue packaging. Brewed from redundant workers' tears. Called Threelionade. Get a free can every time you pay a quid in tax. etc

 

[TopCat]

Alcoholic energy drinks with red, white and blue packaging. Brewed from redundant workers' tears. Called Threelionade. Get a free can every time you pay a quid in tax. etc

Party Seven option available.

 

[mojo pixy]

Party Seven option available.

But only to be shared by six people, outdoors, on a Tuesday, wearing muslin bags over their heads, standing back-to-back, when the wind is in the west.

Infraction gets a £50 fine, reduced to a tenner if paid in USD

 

[Artaxerxes]

Mead please.

Thigh given the Tories are allowing neonicotinids again we're fucked.

 

[ska invita]

UK unveils aid for fishing industry, reeling from post-Brexit checks

Britain unveiled an extra 23 million pounds of funding on Tuesday to compensate fishing businesses which have seen their exports to mainland Europe throttled by the introduction of post-Brexit checks.

www.reuters.com

id be pissed off too, though i expect theres only so long the fishers will be getting handouts - short term hush money more than anything i expect

 

[Artaxerxes]

Captain Pugwash next job could be in cyber

 

[mauvais]

£23m is fuck all for any sector, obviously.

 

[quiet guy]

No he's an exMP as of 2010

 

[TopCat]

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id be pissed off too, though i expect theres only so long the fishers will be getting handouts - short term hush money more than anything i expect

That's got to be a parody. Subsidise mime artists?

 

[TopCat]

Captain Pugwash next job could be in cyber

Cam girl.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Cam girl.

OnlyFins

 

[The39thStep]

i wonder what the scale of jobs moved to the EU / tax loss will come to be?
also this is something that only larger companies can do really, small business will have to just suck it up - or spit it out more likely

Dunno how they do it but a lot of larger UK clothing companies have had European sites for years. I ordered some stuff post Brexit and before the confinement here and it came with no taxes/customs etc.

 

[The39thStep]

People who still support brexit on here: what set of circumstances or kind of thing could come to pass that would make you change your mind about brexit being a good idea? I am genuinely interested.

Is this kind of thing enough?

Move to EU to avoid Brexit costs, firms told

The watershed for me would be if liberal rags like the Guardian became pro Brexit.

 

[Yossarian]

The watershed for me would be if liberal rags like the Guardian became pro Brexit.

"It'd take a lot to turn me against Brexit," says expat who retired to an EU country before Brexit.

 

[Flavour]

The price of imported EU wines may rise but I guarantee our good old traditional UK whines will be cheaper than ever

The northernmost vineyard in England is just outside Leeds. But I think more will be planted in the southwest and probably south Wales too

 

[TopCat]

The northernmost vineyard in England is just outside Leeds. But I think more will be planted in the southwest and probably south Wales too

Denbigh wines from Dorking are great and get better each year with our increasingly long summers and higher temperatures.

 

[prunus]

The watershed for me would be if liberal rags like the Guardian became pro Brexit.

Ok so that’s one vote for ‘Brexit is a good thing as long as it continues to annoy the liberal left [and by extent continues to please the illiberal right - Redwood, Mogg and the Daily Mail and the like] and hang any detrimental consequences on people’s lives.’

Anyone got anything less right-wing reactionary?

 

[TopCat]

Ok so that’s one vote for ‘Brexit is a good thing as long as it continues to annoy the liberal left [and by extent continues to please the illiberal right - Redwood, Mogg and the Daily Mail and the like] and hang any detrimental consequences on people’s lives.’

Anyone got anything less right-wing reactionary?

Your post epitomizes the sneery arsed hard line remainer attitude shown throughout this thread.

These attitudes would need to change a lot.

 

[Artaxerxes]

My seed website can't ship to Norn.

Many people are asking about this! We just wanted to make it clear that it is not our choice in any way, but is a result of the Brexit deal.

Right now, no exports of vegetable seed are allowed at all, either to the EU, or to Northern Ireland. This will change once 'equivalence' of regulations is agreed, hopefully fairly soon. But, even once this happens, because there is free movement of plant & seed material throughout the island of Ireland it means that all the plant health border requirements have now moved effectively to the middle of the Irish sea.

As a result even when it is theoretically allowed we would have to provide a phytosanitary certificate with each order which is just not viable for retail orders.

Hopefully at some point this may change, but it is unlikely to be different in the near future - it’s a problem for the seed and seed potato industry as a whole.

In the meantime, TrueHarvest Seeds in Co Down are expanding their range of open pollinated organic vegetable seed.

NI customers should also be able to order from Brown Envelope Seeds and the Irish Seedsavers who also sell open pollinated seed

 

[Winot]

Another thread from the wine importer.

 

[philosophical]

One of the more compelling arguments was about the risk of a democratic deficit following the referendum vote.
The weird thing is those in favour of brexit seem to think the vote has been honoured, but to me the different treatment of Northern Ireland means that the democratic deficit remains and the vote has not been honoured.
So the argument regarding the will of the people has come up against practical reality, and in my view lost.
Beyond that brexit remains chite with no redeeming features whatsoever, unless winners sneering at the losers counts as a redeeming feature.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I really shouldn't chime in here but...
but...
but...
ah fuck it.

It's not leaving the EU which is a bad idea, in itself. The EU is awful and frankly we're well shot of it.
The bad idea is having it done by the people who are doing it. If anything fucks the UK, it will be those people. Not leaving the EU.

There tis, i done a pinion

You can’t separate the two, brexit means farage and Rees-mogg and Johnson. It’s their thing.

 

[Supine]

You can’t separate the two, brexit means farage and Rees-mogg and Johnson. It’s their thing.

And Topcat's