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The Ashes 2009

Flashman said:
He's just still shit.
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He wasn't always shit.

Santino said:
Dropped in the West Indies and yet to make a case for coming back.

I think he's playing for England Lions against Oz tomorrow, so that's his best chance to show he's worth picking for the Tests.

He might make the team if there's a particularly racy pitch somewhere.
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Ah. I miss so much bloody cricket. They're screening the ashes in a square outside my work... I wonder how many "fag breaks" I can get away with taking :oops:
 
BiddlyBee said:
He wasn't always shit.

Ah. I miss so much bloody cricket. They're screening the ashes in a square outside my work... I wonder how many "fag breaks" I can get away with taking :oops:
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Accidentaly breaking fire alarms too. If you don't appear on the roster...well...who know how long you might be out there...
 
I'm playing cricket tonight! First time in a few years. See if my slow, wayward, non-turning offspin can rip through a batting order just the way it always hasn't done.
 
I think it was a friend of mine who pointed out that whereas Jimmy Anderson has bad days and good days, Harmison has bad days and good overs.
 
BiddlyBee said:
That's fair enough then. Is Monty in or out?
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He is competing with Rashid for the position of second choice spinner. I think he's playing for England XI against Warwickshire this week and that's his chance to prove his worth. He hasn't taken many wickets for Northants this season though.

Someone (Strauss?) has suggested that he's been badly advised to try and develop variations, when he had all his success bowling a very simple, pacy off-spin that sometimes turned and sometimes didn't, and that all he needs to do is go back to basics to start taking wickets again.
 
Santino said:
Dropped in the West Indies and yet to make a case for coming back.
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He and Onions have been demolishing teams in the county championship. not really sure what more he can do to 'make his case'.

Monty had to develop as a test match spinner as if he didn't he would stop taking wickets becasue there wasn't enough variation in his play. sadly he has so far proved incapable of developing variation, isn't taking any wickets, hence he is dropped.
 
I think as a spinner you don't need to develop variations as much as improve your deception. I think off-spinners think they need at least a doosra, as well as a top-spinner - whereas the King of Spain just delivered the same stock ball with some variation of pace and did pretty well.

I want to see Rashid play. A leg spinner in form is a match winner.
 
mrkikiet said:
He and Onions have been demolishing teams in the county championship. not really sure what more he can do to 'make his case'.
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What's this? You mean pick players who are in form and play well together for the national side?!? That's pure crazy talk. Not even the footballers do that.
 
My bowling figures from this evening:

2 0 0 14 :D

No mention is made on the scoresheet of my two dropped catches :oops:
 
liquidlunch said:
lets face it,we have a different outlook to the english.We enjoy taking the piss out of all and sundry and in turn get the piss taken out of us,so what,water off a ducks back innit?The poms seem to be much more serious about stuff and refuse to see the funny side of piss taking.
You lot can get offended too easily at times and jump on your high horse.What i am trying to say is get fucked you pommy cunts and play like men and not sooky la la kids.We will win 3-0 and keep our urn(gives finger to anyone that supports england):p
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I'm Australian and I reckon the post you're responding to has merit. Punter is one of the worst losers in the game, and if "The Fanatics" are any gauge of our supporter base then any accusation of us lacking a sense of humour is right on target. I encountered so many fellow Aussies in London after the '05 Ashes who couldn't summon the good grace to admit we were beaten by a better side - it was embarrassing, man. The high-horsery is all Australia's and our media, unfortunately, and, having been here for a fair while, I can assure you that the Poms care a whole lot less about beating Australia than we do them. And they kill us for chants, banter, etc... Shame.

Still, 2-1 to Australia is my prediction.
 
Nice post jim - you sell out!!! :D

I've no idea where this one is going - two hot tests with the reverse swinging we've got a lead...i don't know...i love the ashes...
 
been offered redundancy and have til 28th July to accept it if i want. tempting to do that and spend my payout on sitting in the pub watching the ashes :hmm:
 
Big Jim said:
I'm Australian and I reckon the post you're responding to has merit. Punter is one of the worst losers in the game, and if "The Fanatics" are any gauge of our supporter base then any accusation of us lacking a sense of humour is right on target. I encountered so many fellow Aussies in London after the '05 Ashes who couldn't summon the good grace to admit we were beaten by a better side - it was embarrassing, man. The high-horsery is all Australia's and our media, unfortunately, and, having been here for a fair while, I can assure you that the Poms care a whole lot less about beating Australia than we do them. And they kill us for chants, banter, etc... Shame.

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The truth is revealed!:cool:
 
The Barmy Army are the best i have ever seen,they give us heaps and more power to them.A few sore losers in England is not indicative of the general Australian population though.I would call it a friendly rivalry most definately.
 
The problem is there's no football chanting history in Aus (which is where the Barmy Army get most of the songs from) consequently all the ones they make up sound shite.

"Aussie Aussie Aussie - Oi! Oi! Oi!" works obviously.

Most of the Aussies on a cricket forum I used to frequent were pretty embarrassed about The Fanatics tbh, and some would even rather sit with the Barmy Army.

The Fanatics are a pretty small group though I think and not really indicative of the Aus support, some of them are at Wimbledon by the looks of things.
 
The Fanatics were an essentially tennis/Lleyton Hewitt fan club of two chefs who followed Hewitt around for 6 months of the year 10 years ago.They then had the bright idea of taking tour groups of sociable aussies around the world to watch any sport Aussies compete in for a price.Good way to spend your time ay?
 
Big Jim said:
I'm Australian and I reckon the post you're responding to has merit. Punter is one of the worst losers in the game, and if "The Fanatics" are any gauge of our supporter base then any accusation of us lacking a sense of humour is right on target. I encountered so many fellow Aussies in London after the '05 Ashes who couldn't summon the good grace to admit we were beaten by a better side - it was embarrassing, man. The high-horsery is all Australia's and our media, unfortunately, and, having been here for a fair while, I can assure you that the Poms care a whole lot less about beating Australia than we do them. And they kill us for chants, banter, etc... Shame.

Still, 2-1 to Australia is my prediction.
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When it comes to cricket this is definitely true. But I think that's because a. Cricket isn't that high profile a sport in Britain and b. We always expect to get thumped by Australia, so when we do, we just shrug, when we win we love it.

We're terrible losers at football though - every major tournament always has some 'incident' for which we blame our departure...
 
The media do moan, and yes a minority of fans kick off, but most people shrug at the football too in my experience.

We're finally getting used to the fact, as a nation, that it's inevitable we'll go out on pens at some stage and there's fuck all we can do about it.
 
Big Jim said:
I'm Australian and I reckon the post you're responding to has merit. Punter is one of the worst losers in the game, and if "The Fanatics" are any gauge of our supporter base then any accusation of us lacking a sense of humour is right on target. I encountered so many fellow Aussies in London after the '05 Ashes who couldn't summon the good grace to admit we were beaten by a better side - it was embarrassing, man. The high-horsery is all Australia's and our media, unfortunately, and, having been here for a fair while, I can assure you that the Poms care a whole lot less about beating Australia than we do them. And they kill us for chants, banter, etc... Shame.

Still, 2-1 to Australia is my prediction.
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