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The Ashes 2009

liquidlunch said:
lets face it,we have a different outlook to the english.We enjoy taking the piss out of all and sundry and in turn get the piss taken out of us,so what,water off a ducks back innit?The poms seem to be much more serious about stuff and refuse to see the funny side of piss taking.
You lot can get offended too easily at times and jump on your high horse.What i am trying to say is get fucked you pommy cunts and play like men and not sooky la la kids.We will win 3-0 and keep our urn(gives finger to anyone that supports england):p
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You aussies like to generalize the english don't ya??
 
Yeah - IMO core to being British is, basically, joking about losing.

Playing for the fun of playing and not caring about winning was always a part of British culture traditionally when it came to sport - it took exporting it to our colonies for people to start taking it seriously...
 
upsidedownwalrus said:
Yeah - IMO core to being British is, basically, joking about losing.

Playing for the fun of playing and not caring about winning was always a part of British culture traditionally when it came to sport - it took exporting it to our colonies for people to start taking it seriously...
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Hmm, what a backwards culture.(in the not caring about winning, sense)
 
upsidedownwalrus said:
Yeah, I don't think the people who invented these sports realised quite how seriously other countries were going to take them. :(
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Sport is sport, it's great but you can take it or leave it considering it amounts to nothing when you remind people than the English used to own half the world and invented the most widely spoken language on earth. And for that they can rest on their laurels and quietly say "fuck you" to the rest of the world when they start dishing it out.
 
liquidlunch said:
lets face it,we have a different outlook to the english.We enjoy taking the piss out of all and sundry and in turn get the piss taken out of us,so what,water off a ducks back innit?The poms seem to be much more serious about stuff and refuse to see the funny side of piss taking.
You lot can get offended too easily at times and jump on your high horse.What i am trying to say is get fucked you pommy cunts and play like men and not sooky la la kids.We will win 3-0 and keep our urn(gives finger to anyone that supports england):p
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:D

I have only had the pleasure of watching one ashes test with an Aussie. England won and he couldn't take it.

Was funny.

I loved the Australia team when they were good. However, you lot are just average these days. It'll be close but I think more aussie tears this Summer.
 
Hmm, yeah we are pretty bad losers in football, at least fan-wise (that ref getting death threats after euro 2004 for instance) but when we lose in most other things most people tend to just shrug and go 'oh well'.
 
Harold Hill said:
In my experience, they're good losers compared to us, just terrible winners.
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Couldn't find one to quite capture quite how pissed off Howard looked but still worth a laugh.:p
 
liquidlunch said:
lets face it,we have a different outlook to the english.We enjoy taking the piss out of all and sundry and in turn get the piss taken out of us,so what,water off a ducks back innit?The poms seem to be much more serious about stuff and refuse to see the funny side of piss taking.
You lot can get offended too easily at times and jump on your high horse.What i am trying to say is get fucked you pommy cunts and play like men and not sooky la la kids.We will win 3-0 and keep our urn(gives finger to anyone that supports england):p
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Perhaps you're mistaking us not seeing the funny side for you lot not being very funny?

Just a thought. :p
 
I don't think Australia can be called an average sied when they've just beaten South Africa away from home in their latest test series. Admittedly, they've lost a lot of great players, but I still think that pound for pound they've got much more class than England. Ponting is in a different class from any of England's batsmen, including KP, in my opinion. I don't think Anderson or Broad have proved anything yet at test level against really good teams. This might be the series that they do it, and I really hope it is cos I'd like it be a close series. Still think Australia will win at least 2-1.
 
I disagree that there will be draws - I think this is a good summer (at last, after two truly shite summers that I've brought my wife back to) and so I can't see much rain stopping play once it gets going.
 
Not worth a separate thread, but is anyone else watching the WI v India one dayer? India were 82/8 but Dhoni and RP Singh have got them to 188 all out, Dhoni with 95.
 
I say "only Mitch Johnson" but if Stuart Clark finds form he's quality of course. He's not bowled for Aus in a while IIRC.

Be interesting to see how he goes against the Lions starting Wednesday.
 
IME of a great many sports mad Australians, they're good losers and winners if it's against anyone other than The Auld Country or the Kiwis; if they lose to either they go completely fucking fruitloops; if they win against either it's a confirmation of Australian 'superiority' in athletics...and yes, the Australian crying (especially in Aussie national press) about their miserable Olympics medal haul was comical.

So no, not particularly good winners or losers IME...
 
I liked Pieterson's response to claims by the Aussie bowlers that they would bowl at the english batsmen's chests. He said that in English conditions that's an ideal area for the batsmen, and that our bowlers would be concentrating on swing and seam and aiming at the stumps :)
 
Idaho said:
I liked Pieterson's response to claims by the Aussie bowlers that they would bowl at the english batsmen's chests. He said that in English conditions that's an ideal area for the batsmen, and that our bowlers would be concentrating on swing and seam and aiming at the stumps :)
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hahaha
 
Earlier this week Johnson taunted Pietersen by saying: "Is he vulnerable? I think there's definitely going to be a lot of pressure on him, so we're looking to get him as cheaply as we can," before talking up how he had twice broken the hand of the South Africa captain, Graeme Smith, and would be aiming for the "ribs, above the badge" of England's batsmen.

Informed of this Pietersen shrugged and invited Johnson to do his worst. "Left-armers talking about bowling into your ribs is actually quite nice. I mean you can work them through mid-wicket, you can hit them through square-leg, hit them through fine leg. On English wickets you can stand back and hook and pull from there," he said, before offering another dig at Johnson by wondering if a player who was unsure of himself during debut against Bangladesh in November 2007 actually possesses genuine hostility.

"So when bowlers start talking about that and the aggression side of things – which I don't believe are strictly true – it's probably the Aussie way of talking. It's when they're talking about *swinging balls and seaming the ball and going for your stumps, that becomes a bit of a problem."
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from: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/jun/26/ashes-kevin-pietersen-england-australia
 
BiddlyBee said:
Is Harmison not fit? Or just been passed over for other bowlers?
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Dropped in the West Indies and yet to make a case for coming back.

I think he's playing for England Lions against Oz tomorrow, so that's his best chance to show he's worth picking for the Tests.

He might make the team if there's a particularly racy pitch somewhere.
 
It's an unconfident nervy auusie side -trying to make themselves look hard and that. The first sesion on the first day could have the series over.
 
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