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Anyway, in other news, Bell is now 4% of the way to his inevitable double century.
 
Santino said:
Pietersen. He should have moved up to 3 yonks ago.
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Yep. Pietersen should bat at three, and it could do him some good. He's a poor starter (as is Ponting, mind you), but once in, he should be given as much responsibility as possible. With a good player at three, you can afford the luxury of playing your star player at four (India's fortunate position). Otherwise, if 3 is a problem position, your star player should step up imo.
 
kabbes said:
Exactly -- neither of them fit at no. 3. And I don't think that Pieterson does either, because he is too flaky to fulfil the role that a no. 3 sometimes needs to do of just carrying an innings.

I'm genuinely baffled.
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Think that's why bopara hasn't been dropped.

oh ffs 39-3 bell out..gotta laugh
 
When England solidified their batting, they had a converted opener at 3 and had left and right hand combinations of say Vaughan, Tresco, Butcher, Atherton etc..

I would have shoved Key in for Cook. He's 'in form', he's more 'mature', everyone gets shoved down one including Ravi
 
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Only problem being Rob Key is utter shit and is only mentioned because of a derth of batting talent right now.
 
Ian Bell is awful! I dont care if he score a ton in the second innings he should never get back in the England set up ever agian. He was dropped for a reason and should have stayed dropped. He is a bottler of the highest order. His technique is great and he can score runs for fun in the County championship, but when it matters at international level he will always be found wanting because he bats like a scared little boy against the best teams! :mad::mad::mad:

Did i mention i hate Ian Bell? :D
 
TrippyLondoner said:
Whats the foreigners in the county game rule like now? forgot how many each county gets..
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One at a time, but as many as you like over the season, I believe.

That's not the problem. The problem is South Africans with a British grandparent getting in on European employment law. These are players who aren't good enough to make the international set-up, but who want to make a living playing cricket – the South African domestic game isn't fully professional – so they come here. Teams in search of short-term success pack their teams with these 'Kolpak' players, many of them experienced, solid players. It's cheaper and less risky than developing your own talent, but it means that young English players have few first-team opportunities.

Two or three utter stars, like it used to be, who the youngsters can learn from and be inspired by, is one thing. Half a dozen cynical old pros blocking youngsters and providing very little in the way of inspiration is quite another.
 
waterloowelshy said:
Ian Bell is awful! I dont care if he score a ton in the second innings he should never get back in the England set up ever agian. He was dropped for a reason and should have stayed dropped. He is a bottler of the highest order. His technique is great and he can score runs for fun in the County championship, but when it matters at international level he will always be found wanting because he bats like a scared little boy against the best teams! :mad::mad::mad:

Did i mention i hate Ian Bell? :D
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Not a word here I disagree with. I think I said in 2005 that he should be dropped, and I haven't seen anything since to make me revise my opinion.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
One at a time, but as many as you like over the season, I believe.

That's not the problem. The problem is South Africans with a British grandparent getting in on European employment law. These are players who aren't good enough to make the international set-up, but who want to make a living playing cricket – the South African domestic game isn't fully professional – so they come here. Teams in search of short-term success pack their teams with these 'Kolpak' players, many of them experienced, solid players. It's cheaper and less risky than developing your own talent, but it means that young English players have few first-team opportunities.
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That's sad really.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
One at a time, but as many as you like over the season, I believe.

That's not the problem. The problem is South Africans with a British grandparent getting in on European employment law. These are players who aren't good enough to make the international set-up, but who want to make a living playing cricket – the South African domestic game isn't fully professional – so they come here. Teams in search of short-term success pack their teams with these 'Kolpak' players, many of them experienced, solid players. It's cheaper and less risky than developing your own talent, but it means that young English players have few first-team opportunities.

Two or three utter stars, like it used to be, who the youngsters can learn from and be inspired by, is one thing. Half a dozen cynical old pros blocking youngsters and providing very little in the way of inspiration is quite another.
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Oh give over.

We've heard the same excuses in football and it doesn't cut it.

The england football team still has a very very strong selection despite the excuses, it's mostly bottle/injuries/poor managerial decisions etc which see to it...
 
Nemo said:
Not a word here I disagree with. I think I said in 2005 that he should be dropped, and I haven't seen anything since to make me revise my opinion.
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Its almost like the ECB have invested so much time and effort in their little protege that they cant quite come to turns with dropping him for ever. 'Now come on Ian we will give you one last chance to show us how good you really are, theres a good little boy'

It aint going to happen he is crap mentally and bottles it whenever it matters! :mad::mad::mad:
 
Broad will inevitably step up to the plate and deliver a century of distinction.

Oh noes! We're doomed!
 
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