The amount and pace of migration to the UK is unprecedented

[danny la rouge]

It is fascinating how the media aren’t pushing Starmer on what he said, even to the point of dissembling on his behalf.

 

[nogojones]

I blame neighter asylum seekers (genuine or not), nor do I blame the landlords or even Serco for this.

But the government should know better, or even worse it does, that this is all cyncial profiteering at the expense of ordinary people.

Well. I would blame Serco for this.

I've had the pleasure of working in partnership with Serco at a fairly senior level and know for sure that they will have gameplanned and lobbied for the best possible financial outcome from all the potential senarios.

They're balls deep in this.

 

[quimcunx]

When you’re waiting for a decision on your asylum claim (which can take years) you can neither work nor get normal benefits, in this stupid system, so I don’t know where people are supposed to live, not hotels obvs and clearly not private landlords, massive detention centres must be the only solution.

NASS accommodation, though it seems it's not called that any longer. Might be a biggish house with 2 or 3 people to a bedroom (so could be private landlord), or a hostel etc.

Staying in asylum housing - Shelter England

Find out about staying in a hostel, hotel or longer term asylum housing, Find out how long you can stay and what to do if your asylum support stops.

england.shelter.org.uk

Once you've been given asylum you have 28 days to sort out your benefits and find somewhere else to live.

 

[FamKa]

The English also "moved to Britain" (from northern central Europe). That was proportionally a much bigger migration than the one which you are describing now, and which, therefore, is not "unprecedented."

I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of English ancestral admixture is local Brythonic in varying amounts... with most continental European ancestry more common around the east of Britain.

 

[FamKa]

Population of the UK...
67.33 million (2021)

You're whining about 75000 people a year coming into the UK...

Literally 0.1% increase in the population.

Deaths in the UK in a year..608000..
That's.0.9%...

0.1% < 0.9% by 0.8%

Clearly the UK population is declining EVEN with people coming into the UK.

Ipso facto ... you is a knob.

Well... I meant immigration in general, not purely asylum seekers.

 

[FamKa]

1/ No.
2/ Yes
3/ No
4/ No. I speak with a fairly broad working class South-West London accent.
5/ Given the number of children born out-of-wedlock in the last 40 yrs, double-barreled surnames are quite common among working class people, you eejit.
6/ I complain about gentrification. I'm a tenant on a council estate. I complain about it because it forces working class families out of traditionally working class areas. Brixton, for example, is being whitewashed, & everything that makes it such a great place is fading away because of...gentrification.

Stick your generalisations up your arse, boy.

Brixton used to be more of a middle class area actually

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm fairly certain that the vast majority of English ancestral admixture is local Brythonic in varying amounts... with most continental European ancestry more common around the east of Britain.

By 'I'm fairly certain' did you really mean to say 'I reckon off the top of my head'?

Also, 'varying amounts' accounts for a multitude of sins. Most British people have 'varying amounts' of Neanderthal ancestry, for example.

 

[FamKa]

That's gross inward migration. 334k people left in the same time, so net migration was 239k.

Historical average net inwards migration (quarterly rolling annual figures, as that's how they have them) since Q4 2010 is 251k.

Taking the figures back to 2000 (the earlier ones are just rolling annually Q4), average net inwards migration 252k.

So, unprecedented? Absolutely not. In fact thread title should read "The amount and pace of migration to the UK is low relative to recent historical levels." But I guess that doesn't sound so dramatic.

(I imagine someone's already pointed this out in 10 pages but I don't want to have to read through a whole troll thread, sorry).

fair enough... thanks for not insulting me, I appreciate it.
I suppose living in an area with a population of majority immigrant seems to skewer my perception of immigration into Britain as a whole.

 

[Ax^]

one question were do you live?

unless you want to fuck off to the country sorry

you going to meet immigrants


mostly due to the british empire not uncontrolled migration

 

[ViolentPanda]

I'd rather be a buffon than a hopeless middle class liberal!

I suspect that your animus against middle class liberals is a spot of the old self-hate.

 

[eatmorecheese]

fair enough... thanks for not insulting me, I appreciate it.
I suppose living in an area with a population of majority immigrant seems to skewer my perception of immigration into Britain as a whole.

OK, your local area skewers your perception. Why, even in your local area, (beyond the fact that neoliberal wankers have cut housing etc to the bone) does this bother you?

 

[mojo pixy]

one question were do you live?

unless you want to fuck off to the country sorry

you going to meet immigrants

I work in an elderly care home in a tiny village in Devon, most of the staff are British (and all of the residents are) but on staff there are three Romanians, two Ukrainians, two Poles, two Portuguese and a Thai. Nobody's talking about too many foreigners.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Brixton used to be more of a middle class area actually

Up until around 1920, when a lot of "worker's accommodation" was built between then & the 1930s. I know my local history, thanks.

 

[ViolentPanda]

one question were do you live?

unless you want to fuck off to the country sorry

you going to meet immigrants


mostly due to the british empire not uncontrolled migration

Even if you "fuck off to the country", you're likely to meet immigrants. As you say, mostly due to the Empire's legacy - of Anglophone muddle-headed Anglophilia as much as anything.

 

[MickiQ]

I work in an elderly care home in a tiny village in Devon, most of the staff are British (and all of the residents are) but on staff there are three Romanians, two Ukrainians, two Poles, two Portuguese and a Thai. Nobody's talking about too many foreigners.

Middle Q describes the staff at the hospital where she works as being like the crew of the Starship Enterprise

 

[mojo pixy]

Middle Q describes the staff at the hospital where she works as being like the crew of the Starship Enterprise

Whatever you do, don't put on the red scrubs..

 

[danny la rouge]

Middle Q describes the staff at the hospital where she works as being like the crew of the Starship Enterprise

Always walking along the same length of corridor?

 

[Ax^]

I work in an elderly care home in a tiny village in Devon, most of the staff are British (and all of the residents are) but on staff there are three Romanians, two Ukrainians, two Poles, two Portuguese and a Thai. Nobody's talking about too many foreigners.

only the OP it appears


he was complaining about living in a high migrant populated area was simply suggesting unless he want to move to an isolated village in the arse of no where, he not going to be able to avoid us migrants

 

[FamKa]

one question were do you live?

unless you want to fuck off to the country sorry

you going to meet immigrants


mostly due to the british empire not uncontrolled migration

Frankly, I don't mind meeting immigrants. I'm rather fond of those that started from nothing and "made it" - a la Hamdi Ulukaya, billionaire and founder of Chobani Yogurts or Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind (although he was technically born in Britain and is half ethnically British). My point wasn't that I don't want to meet immigrants... also there are plenty of people from non-Empire origin countries, just to name origins of a few people I knew in school:
Brazil, Algeria, Vietnam, Colombia, Ethiopia, the anarchy part of Somalia (the formerly British part is actually pretty normal)

 

[elbows]

Due to real shortages in the labour market we get to see the spectacle of the likes of pro-Brexit Lord Wolfson trying to have his cake and eat it, via the concept of 'economically productive migration'.

Brexit-backing Next boss says UK needs more overseas workers

Lord Wolfson urges the government to let more foreign workers into the UK to tackle labour shortages.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Frankly, I don't mind meeting immigrants. I'm rather fond of those that started from nothing and "made it" - a la Hamdi Ulukaya, billionaire and founder of Chobani Yogurts or Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind (although he was technically born in Britain and is half ethnically British). My point wasn't that I don't want to meet immigrants... also there are plenty of people from non-Empire origin countries, just to name origins of a few people I knew in school:
Brazil, Algeria, Vietnam, Colombia, Ethiopia, the anarchy part of Somalia (the formerly British part is actually pretty normal)

What about those who don't become billionaires? Are they acceptable?

 

[FamKa]

OK, your local area skewers your perception. Why, even in your local area, (beyond the fact that neoliberal wankers have cut housing etc to the bone) does this bother you?

sigh -
fine, I'll just shut up then.

 

[FamKa]

What about those who don't become billionaires?

yeah, sure. Why not.
I hope Britain becomes a country where its possible from more people to start from the bottom and be able to become millionaires

 

[Serge Forward]

Frankly, I don't mind meeting immigrants. I'm rather fond of those that started from nothing and "made it" - a la Hamdi Ulukaya, billionaire and founder of Chobani Yogurts or Mustafa Suleyman, co-founder of DeepMind (although he was technically born in Britain and is half ethnically British). My point wasn't that I don't want to meet immigrants... also there are plenty of people from non-Empire origin countries, just to name origins of a few people I knew in school:
Brazil, Algeria, Vietnam, Colombia, Ethiopia, the anarchy part of Somalia (the formerly British part is actually pretty normal)

Rags to riches, eh... pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, etc, etc.

And those who don't tread on and exploit others to become billionaires and rise above their class?

The point is not to rise above our class but to rise with our class, whether refugee, immigrant or UK born. Everything else is bulshit.

 

[eatmorecheese]

sigh -
fine, I'll just shut up then.

 

[Pickman's model]

yeah, sure. Why not.
I hope Britain becomes a country where its possible from more people to start from the bottom and be able to become millionaires

everyone will be millionaires in the uk soon, as so many people were in italy before the euro

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Is there any correlation between mass migration and the state of the planet?

 

[MickiQ]

everyone will be millionaires in the uk soon, as so many people were in italy before the euro

 

[Dystopiary]

Fuck billionaires.

 

[wow]

if i blundered into a thread, as you have here, and began to insult you for no obvious cause without addressing the topic, as you have here, then i imagine you'd have a few choice words to say to me, as i have said to you. fucking catch yourself on.

“…fucking catch yourself on”.

Hmmm