The 2024 UK General Election - news, speculation and updates
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BusLanes
Pedestrian
They stood in the GLA so presumably would be considering standing in Westminster. But much easier to run for GLA List than FPTP
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Didn't watch it and when I saw headlines about Boring Neoliberal politician A accusing Boring Neoliberal Politician B of lying, I glazed over. However, if you follow the story through, the Treasury do seem to be giving a fairly robust response to Ratboy suggesting they were in on his attack on Labour's tax plans.
www.theguardian.com
Disclaimer - I didn't fucking watch it.
Labour dismisses no confidence vote in Welsh first minister Vaughan Gething as Tory ‘stunt’ – as it happened
Andrew RT Davies, Welsh Conservative leader, says vote reflects badly on Keir Starmer as Labour says vote is a stunt
Disclaimer - I didn't fucking watch it.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Probably should go in the Starmer thread, but I'm close to not caring which lot win this election. Cons would continue to be hideous in the shrinkingly unlikely event of them winning, of course. But Starmer is so keen to prove Labour is market friendly, migrant hating, keen to tar his opponents as antisemitic... we are into cig papers here. And if Starmer were to get a landslide, that's a massive setback for the remnants of the left in the party and the unions - as well as anyone seeking to establish a workable alternative to Labour. Labour in office might be so bad that the unions start thinking about funding alternatives, though I don't see it in the short to medium term. They'll be clinging on to the idea that 'their' party has won, better the devil you know and little slivers of access to the government.
In other news, it's quite sunny outside!
In other news, it's quite sunny outside!
Johnny Vodka
The Abominable Scotsman
One hopes, though I know some staunch Labour supporters (and people pissed off with the SNP up here) who seem to think he's a reasonable candidate & might go all out left when he wins.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
They don't want to affect their career prospects by upsetting the new boss.
ska invita
back on the other side
You seem cynical, but I'm sure that's what will happen - Starmer as a former member of the International Revolutionary Marxist Tendency has played the long game of state infiltration, knowing where power truly resides, and once he has his hands on the levers he will unleash full communism before you can say Socialist Alternatives!seem to think he's a reasonable candidate & might go all out left when he wins.
The clues were all there....
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Is he on OnlyFans as well ?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
V cold breeze though
ska invita
back on the other side
presumably a reference to the new leader of the revolution Victoria Thomas-Bowen
all power to her
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
JimW
支那暗杀团
OnlySpads
burtabraham
Active Member
Classic, or Next Gen?
Leafster
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Star Trek: Enterprise - I thought I'd give it a rewatch after all these years.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Delusional. Btw is it just me who finds the idea of an unprincipled shit like Starmer accusing somebody of lying surreal?One hopes, though I know some staunch Labour supporters (and people pissed off with the SNP up here) who seem to think he's a reasonable candidate & might go all out left when he wins.
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Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
people who think that also seem to think our politicians should be dishonest and scheming by lying about their intentions when elected
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
That already happens
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Of course!
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Yeah, this is probably one of my biggest concerns about a Labour victory, really, given how little difference there is between them by other metrics.
Any victory will be
We can all say "it's the Tories wot lost it" all we like, but Nouveau Labour won't care or act like it. And as you say, while in theory it leaves a maaaaaassive gap on the left, not entirely sure how it gets filled in a way that has any significant impact on public life at large.
Maybe there's some kind of grassroots, non-Parliamentary movement, buuuuuuuut... quite probably not, too.
As ever, though, my knowledge and understanding is paper thin, so maybe there is more hope and I just can't see it.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
There is slight hope
1) Labours economic policies will crash and burn
2) the cuts will be massive already
3) the freezing ofvtax thresholds will further erode living standards
4) some candidates in previously unwinnable seats just may be Leftists
5) it is the Left that has policy ideas not the Right
6) given 1/2/3 the unions may flex their muscles
4&6 are maybes: the others are certs: indeed I think the Starmer purge of Leftists is because (advised by Mandelson) he and reeves know this.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
That is a danger, but I am not sure that it would necessarily be a massive setback for the left / the unions. What we'd probably find is that the government would quickly realise that winning loads of seats without genuine public support doesn't result in the ability to force much through - it would just transfer opposition from the Commons to other areas of society.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
BREAKING**
Reform UK surges to within just two points of the Tories in the new YouGov/Sky News poll
LAB: 40%
CON: 19%
REF: 17%
LDEM: 10%
GRN: 7%
Reform UK surges to within just two points of the Tories in the new YouGov/Sky News poll
LAB: 40%
CON: 19%
REF: 17%
LDEM: 10%
GRN: 7%
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Yay, Faiza Shaheen is standing as in independent in Chingford 
www.theguardian.com
‘How can they treat people like this?’ Faiza Shaheen on Labour – and why she’s running as an independent
The Labour party suddenly and controversially stripped her of the chance to be one of its MPs last week. She talks about why she’s still determined to represent Chingford and Woodford Green
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Scotland, and now Wales, seem intent on copying the chaos in Westminster, WTF have the people done to deserve idiot leaders?
I guess this will have some impact on the Labour vote in Wales for the GE.
news.sky.com
I guess this will have some impact on the Labour vote in Wales for the GE.
Vaughan Gething: Wales's first minister loses confidence vote
Mr Gething, who has only been in post since March, lost the vote by two votes, with 27 Senedd members voting to support him and 29 against.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Wow; 19:17 - not the sort of convergence we expected?
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
YouGov’s weird new methodology seems unfavourable to Labour.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Interesting poll this as there isn't that much between Tories, Reform, Lib Dem and Greens really, the 2 party system is buckling.
IMO best outcome would be for Greens, Reform, WPB and some independents to win seats, Lib Dems win big from Tories, Plaid retain or gain seats and SNP do better than expected, denying Labour a majority and possibly opening the door to PR, making room for a genuine left party to break through next election.
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