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Can't be bothered going back through this thread right now, but disappointed (and surprised) by what's happened to the SNP, the biggest party to the left of Labour in the UK. Labour have won where I am. I would have liked to have given the Scottish Greens my vote (especially as I know the candidate), but knowing it would be between SNP and Labour, gave it to the SNP (who came second by quite some margin). Boo. Only things that have cheered me up are some of those key Tories losing their seats and of course Corbyn winning his.

No rush to crack open the champagne.
 
As much as I would like to believe that narrative, Corbyn was very good at uniting the right/centre right vote against him and Starmer is very good at allowing Tory voters to stay at home or switch to Reform. I doubt Corbyn would have got as big a majority.

It's not a case of the grown-ups being in charge but it's a fact that there's a lot of right wingers out there and left haven't won the argument yet. Neither have Starmer/centrist of course, but triangulation works.
Sorry, I've had three hours sleep. I wasnt saying it would have been better with Corbyn. I was saying a leader who wasn't him with a manifesto that offered anything remotely new.
 
Can't be bothered going back through this thread right now, but disappointed (and surprised) by what's happened to the SNP, the biggest party to the left of Labour in the UK. Labour have won where I am. I would have liked to have given the Scottish Greens my vote (especially as I know the candidate), but knowing it would be between SNP and Labour, gave it to the SNP (who came second by quite some margin). Boo. Only things that have cheered me up are some of those key Tories losing their seats and off course Corbyn winning his.
At least Dross lost.
 
Chesterfield held by labour with Tories second. :eek: Previously they haven't stood a chance here. Lib Dems who are usually the challengers here came 4th behind reform. :eek:
 
Obviously it would be disingenuous to suggest that number of seats doesn't matter, but...

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Starmer's Labour has managed to just squeeze out more votes than Miliband's :D

interesting that the Labour vote is ±0% overall.
but there's a lot of seats where they've gone down significantly (yet still won as they were up in the 80s / 90s before). e.g. Hackney, Tottenham, Birmingham.
suggesting those votes have been offset with gains elsewhere. the better to reach more of the country instead of piling on more votes that are 'wasted' under FPTP.
better just hope that they've hit the floor in those, and not on a continuing downward trend.
 
I think a lot of positive stuff from election.
1. The tories are utterly fucked. Truss! Mogg! Truss! Shapps! And Liz fucking truss!
2. ReFuk did not make the kind of breakthrough many feared (and howit looked early on) - 15% ish votes share in an election where the whole country was lining up to kick the shit out the vermin. And a big chunk of ReFuk votes are NOT ex-tories and arent likey to "come back". The Greens got as the same number of seats.
3. Labours vote share was pushed down by people going to green and independants. So there will be real pressure on labour from that direction if they to be re-elected. (rather than gammon-signalling)
 
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Think what's really good is the places they came 2nd, think in places where Reform aren't a big presence it'll be a real stretch for Labour to scare people into voting for them in future.
Hoping that Shammer goes ahead with allowing 16 year olds to vote. I think that would backfire and work better for the Greens than Labour in future. But this is Shammer is we're talking about - there's no promise that can't be rolled back on.
 
Well being partially awake and partly asleep doesn't seem to have been too bad except that I probably missed various celeb losses in the small hours.

So what I think is that:

Mark Harper lost his seat by a mere 200 odd votes
Rees Mogg lost his seat, yay
Jeremy Hunt didn't lose his seat but kept it by a small amount
Grant Shapps lost his seat
Rishy Sunak kept his seat
Gorgeous George Galloway lost his seat

What did I miss?

Oh yes and Farage got elected Grr
And Corbyn was elected as an independent

Oh I missed George Galloway lost his seat. Ha :D
 
Mr Sunak told supporters: "The British people have delivered a sobering verdict tonight, there is much to learn... and I take responsibility for the loss."

As glad as I am that they lost...
Credit to him for not trying to shirk blame.
A leader accepts blame whether it's his fault or not.
I'm not sure if anyone could have saved the Tories after the 14 year utter shit show they put on. It certainly wasn't him who could.
 
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