brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
They need all the distraction this quarter wit can muster on the day that tax take has been confirmed as the highest since 1948.
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Starry Wisdom
It's not so much the tax take I object to as how they intend to distribute monies raised
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Love how for balance they’ve added a quote from the taxdodger’s alliance. Shitty newspapers being shitty.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Have I ever mentioned the time that a stranger heckled/catcalled me with "Timothee Chalamet-looking boy!" Well, it was either aimed at me or someone just behind me, I'm choosing to take it anyway.I'm with danny la rouge and aiming for Audrey Hepburn.
(Can we change this to a 'who'd play you in a film of your life' thread? Way more interesting and relevant than a GE thread...)
I've never actually read Gramsci, but I just about know enough about Gramsci to be furious at that headline referring to McVey as the "Good Sense minister".
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Agree with the sentiment, but when we're faced with administrations intent on regressively transferring tax burden from capital to labour, the highest ever tax take as a % of GDP since 1948 is an issue.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Probably helps keep it Tory as a lot of voters might stick with Labour just because it's him
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
And that's why they call it Sussex Mid. Amirite fellow kids?
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
maybe
more seriously, this has predictions for each (new) constituency seat.
up to you really - depends whether you want to vote for the non-tory most likely to win, even if there's an element of holding your nose in doing so, or to register protest against one party even if that might help the tory.
as i've said before, there isn't a good answer. at national level, we will either get an increasingly far-right conservative party tory government, or an increasingly tory flavoured labour government (with outside chances of a coalition either way.)
voting for starmer's labour party will convince starmer and the party machine that they have done the right thing in moving more right, not voting for starmer's labour party will convince the party machine that they need to move even further right either with starmer or someone worse.
blargh.
ETA - the above site lists my local constituency as 'tribe - kind yuppies'
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philosophical
Well-Known Member
Off to vote in the Lewisham Mayoral election soon.
Must remember my old git bus pass though.
Must remember my old git bus pass though.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
Presumably Labour win by landslide, Greens second then LD or Tories 3rd.
Which faction does the Labour candidate represent?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
In these elections I often vote Green in the hope they keep going.
Keep going at breaking strikes?
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
You are George Galloway and you claimed all my expenses.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I suppose I mean keep existing, don’t wish they would break strikes though, I don’t think me voting for them is an endorsement particularly.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I find it curious that on the one hand you repeatedly attack and criticize those of us who voted to Leave the EU for the consequences of the Conservative government's fuck up of much about the way Britain has left the EU, and yet you claim that your voting for the Green Party isn't an endorsement of the policies they have put in place where they have got into power.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Apparently the People's Republic of (central) Hackney is alive and kicking, vive le revolucion ...maybe
more seriously, this has predictions for each (new) constituency seat.
up to you really - depends whether you want to vote for the non-tory most likely to win, even if there's an element of holding your nose in doing so, or to register protest against one party even if that might help the tory.
as i've said before, there isn't a good answer. at national level, we will either get an increasingly far-right conservative party tory government, or an increasingly tory flavoured labour government (with outside chances of a coalition either way.)
voting for starmer's labour party will convince starmer and the party machine that they have done the right thing in moving more right, not voting for starmer's labour party will convince the party machine that they need to move even further right either with starmer or someone worse.
blargh.
ETA - the above site lists my local constituency as 'tribe - kind yuppies'
Bit rubbish the electoral calculus thing. Predicting a Labour win in Hackney North and Stoke Newington. AFAIA, Diane Abbott will be standing again but presumably as an independent, given she's still suspended from Labour.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
dunno really. in 2022, (mayoral election) greens were second, tories 3rd, LD 4th.
At council level, the LD's had a minor surge in 2006 (which led to a minority labour administration for 4 years) a smaller presence in 2010, then they got wiped out in 2014.
now mayoral elections have been changed to FPTP (not that that was a deliberate move to favour the tories, of course...) there may be less of people voting green or lib dem with labour second choice to make it less likely the tory gets in.
there may be protest votes against labour over gaza - the WPB / people before profit candidate and one of the independents have both made this part of their campaign, and there's the element of criticising labour for letting the incumbent mayor bugger off and become an MP leading to the cost of this by-election - both these two are also proposing to abolish the directly elected mayor system if they get in.
not sure there's enough tory voters left in lewisham to make much of a difference even if the anti tory vote is split, though.
PTK
Paul Kegan
BusLanes
Pedestrian
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Go ahead and attack and criticise me then for the consequences of my vote. Easier than suggesting a solution for the land border you voted for. The border would exist any way your leave vote is implemented, how would that be different under any national government?
Lewisham mayoral election is today. We'll see.
I didn't think she'd confirmed anything about running. Have I missed that, or just rumours at this point?Bit rubbish the electoral calculus thing. Predicting a Labour win in Hackney North and Stoke Newington. AFAIA, Diane Abbott will be standing again but presumably as an independent, given she's still suspended from Labour.
I don't exactly have my finger on the Labour/Abbott pulse but unless she wants to retire, can't see why she wouldn't stand again. (She's also noticeably more present than she's been for some time in that way MPs are when there's a GE coming up.)
Monkeygrinder's Organ
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PTK
Paul Kegan
How can this be quantified? What is the meaning of, for example, a 40% chance of winning? How could the accuracy of this figure ever be demonstrated?
cupid_stunt
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Monkeygrinder's Organ
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