Maybe not though...in my grand-daughter's (12) considered opinion, Timofeeee looks like a meercat
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hitmouse
music obfuscation technology
No apology needed, I may well look like a meercat too.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
You're right but he's hardly alone in this ludicrous hypocrisy - either on here or more widely.
The number of people who insist that anyone voting for X is endorsing every element of the party, while their vote for Y is somehow only an endorsement of the good parts, they can't be held responsible for the other stuff is crazy.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Theresa May has said she's not standing at the GE.
Announced it this morning via her local paper, the Maidenhead Advertiser.
Absolute stonking majority, but from what I've heard, a lot of that was as much for her as for any donkey with a blue rosette, so I wonder if Maidenhead has suddenly become a seat worth having a serious punt at for Lab or the LD's - anyone have any local insight?
Announced it this morning via her local paper, the Maidenhead Advertiser.
Absolute stonking majority, but from what I've heard, a lot of that was as much for her as for any donkey with a blue rosette, so I wonder if Maidenhead has suddenly become a seat worth having a serious punt at for Lab or the LD's - anyone have any local insight?
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Yeah, the LibDems were pushing really hard even before Mrs. May's resignation. The Tories lost control of the council to the LibDems, in a quite a spectacular defeat, and the local politics groups seem tired of the Tory party in general, so i think the LibDems feel this is the biggest chance they'll get.
Theresa May was a popular MP for the area so it'll be interesting to see who the candidate is.
There are some 'stick your heads in the sand always a Tory' voters around here but I reckon this is the best chance the LibDems have to take the seat.
I wasn't considering a tactical vote for the LibDems but I am now.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Not sure how familiar you are with Irish history, but the border existed long before the vote to Leave to EU.
if you're looking for someone to blame you need to go back a bit further than that.
QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Also the LibDem candidate is local, born and brought up in Maidenhead and currently a Councillor (for the ward where my son's school is) which I think will play well especially if the Tories parachute someone in.
andysays
Love and solidarity
Neither Abbott or Corbyn have confirmed they would run as independents against an official Labour candidate, which would see them slung out of the party.
Does anyone know if alternative candidates have been chosen in their respective constituencies? I don't remember hearing about it if so.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I'd imagine that both sides in this are simply circling the other - Labour doesn't want to select other candidates because that will set off the activists, the two MP's don't want to declare that they'll stand as independents because they'll get kicked out.
Both sides will just kick it down the road as far as they can - I reckon that Lab will only select candidates once the GE is called, and they'll hope that the activists will decide that the GE is a bigger fish to fry than Corbyn and Abbott. They'll also simply be a lot more going on for the media to cover. If they do it now it'll be the top story, if they do it when the GE is announced it'll be 'and finally...'.
andysays
Love and solidarity
You're probably right about all of that.
I certainly wouldn't expect either Corbyn or Abbott to be announcing anything until the election is actually announced.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The UK and the Republic joined the EU and its previous iteration at the same time. The Good Friday Agreement led towards the cessation of the border being a practical issue and an end to the violence that caused thousands of deaths and injuries.
Your vote to leave was a vote to fuck that up.
BusLanes
Pedestrian
As expected Labour wins easily, then Greens a poor 2nd, LDs a poor third and Local Conservatives a poor fourth, with what I assume is a Galloway mob a poor fifth and the Christian People's alliance the last party, then an independent in last place
My god. I’ve had philosophical on ignore so long that I forgot he existed. Then signs of his existence pop up in quotes on this thread, so I decide to take a look in the spirit of amnesty. And I find he’s still arguing about the same thing that caused me to put him on ignore five years ago! Good grief. Does he still also think that Brexit will never actually happen because of it’s administrative impossibility?
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
philosophical - keep fighting the good fight, comrade. Brexit remains a logical absurdity, and all factors other than the rapidly diminishing froth of Westminster politics will push us inexorably to trading standards realignment with our neighbours.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
Back to Theresa May, Jess Phillips is calling her choice of the Maidenhead Advertiser for this announcement “classy”. I get the point, and going to the Hymen Gazette rather than to Twitter is definitely a laudable signal to her constituents.
But I don’t think that any Labour MP should be using “classy” as a term of approbation. It feels very off, and I’m often confused to see it here as well. Or am I completely misunderstanding the etymology?
But I don’t think that any Labour MP should be using “classy” as a term of approbation. It feels very off, and I’m often confused to see it here as well. Or am I completely misunderstanding the etymology?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
kabbes could try to define the word ‘Brexit’ because what has happened since the referendum is not what people voted for according to the ballot paper.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
They voted for an entirely meaningless slogan, which surely the onus is not on Kabbes to define?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
This thread is about the next GE, not fucking Brexit.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Or maybe he has some paint he'd like to watch dry.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Maureen of the Christian group always stands, she is at every Lewisham East Parliamentary hustings I’ve ever been to over the years, and I think she got loads more votes in the Mayoral election than she has ever got in the General Elections.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Andy says introduced the vote leave angle into this thread, not me. I mentioned the Mayoral election in Lewisham.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
All current British politics is essentially about Brexit, unfortunately. That’s their fault too.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
There is a thread for those concerned about the passport queues and availability of cheap labour to exploit
Middle class anxiety
It's not an original observation to note the difference in tone between media reporting of consequences of austerity 2010- and reporting of consequences of leaving EU/no deal, or that lots of middle class/chattering types were happy to turn a blind eye or pay lip service to effects of austerity...
www.urban75.net
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
True, and there are plenty of other, dedicated threads. However, some factions of the incumbent administration responsible for the Leave debacle are already using their client press to exploit the great Brexit 'success' as an attempted wedge (GE) issue. I think Silas Loom is correct; it will not be possible to isolate the 'B' word from the 2024 election.
Today's Express front page (as posted in the most popular Brexit thread):
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Better to jump rather than be pushedNext United Kingdom general election - Wikipedia
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
I am surprised my MP, Peter Bottomley, hasn't announced he's standing down [yet], he's been an MP since 1975, for West Worthing since 1997, is currently 'Father of the House', and under high risk for losing an election for the first time in his life, so it would seem logical to step down.
It’s not Brexit itself that philosophical is obsessed with so much as his own cognitive dissonance. He was insistent from day 1 that Brexit would be impossible because Ireland and I see that all these years later, he’s still insisting that he was right in face of all hard reality. His resolution to this dissonance follows the classic pattern that Festinger laid down back in 1957 — rationalisation. In his case this is involving holding that what has happened isn’t actually Brexit. Which will come as a shock to the millions of people who are now having to engage in large amounts of extra bureaucracy in order to trade with or live in Europe.
andysays
Love and solidarity
In that case, your vote for the Greens is a vote for everything the Greens have done and ever will do if they get into power.
You. can't have it both ways.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I too think it is unreasonable to suggest that those who voted for Brexit voted for everything that is involved in Brexiting. Clearly we can't assume that just because they voted for Brexit, they voted for all aspects of Brexiting, for example the bit of Brexiting that involves doing Brexit.
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