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thin skinned lying bullying tiny assed rat faced pox ridden syphilitic metastisting ball cancer of a man. There isn't a medieval disease I wouldn't wish on him. Arrogant motherfucking cunt, screeching little self entitled horse wanking weasel. I despise everything about him, I'd spit on his grave if that were ever possible and, to quote Ronnie Drew, wish him to the floor of hell. I apologise for nothing I've just said.
 
It seems cheap and easy to say 'biased audience" but it's either that or these people are terminally brainwashed by right wing talking points
They're not brainwashed, it's just that the terms of political discourse is pre-set to stopping small boats, foreigners, "woke", "real" women, etc. The Tories and their media set the debate, Labour plays along.
 
It seems cheap and easy to say 'biased audience" but it's either that or these people are terminally brainwashed by right wing talking points

You'd have to be some kind of wrong 'un to actually show up in person to watch this shit. You probably have to apply and everything.
 
You'd have to be some kind of wrong 'un to actually show up in person to watch this shit. You probably have to apply and everything.
These wrong' uns will be deemed representative of the country.

I don't really understand why they don't have the on-hand fact checkers live in the studio to actually comment there and then. Surely that would be more helpful, and more entertaining, as it would provoke Sunak to ever more irritation given his utter mendacity
 
This debate is just reminding me how much I hate all of them and all of this shit.

That's why I'm not watching it.
And frankly for the most part no practical purpose to the electorate. Any undecided voter who watches TV debates hoping to set on the party of their choice might as well flick a coin. Charisma and showmanship should be about the last thing voters should consider when evaluating a political party to vote for.
 
thin skinned lying bullying tiny assed rat faced pox ridden syphilitic metastisting ball cancer of a man. There isn't a medieval disease I wouldn't wish on him. Arrogant motherfucking cunt, screeching little self entitled horse wanking weasel. I despise everything about him, I'd spit on his grave if that were ever possible and, to quote Ronnie Drew, wish him to the floor of hell. I apologise for nothing I've just said.

Yeah, but what about Sunak?
 


Labour tacking to UKIP on immigration and still not out racisting the Tories is amazing because we know Keir will just get more racist.
 
The vermin’s new favourite line of “Do not surrender your country/border/economy/tax etc. to Labour” sounds very much like telling the electorate that they’re wrong. Cue Brecht’s Die Lösung...again
 
I'm not not keen, I would like to see Führage crushed under a five figure Labour majority in Clacton - but the truth is that it's not Labour that will beat Frog King, it's the Tories.

A nameless Tory MP is better than Falange. Being in parliament would give him a platform and a legitimacy the like of which he's never had - this one, unfortunately, is about choices: a poor option, which might turn into a bad one, or a really bad one, which might turn into a devastating one.

I would have preferred it if Lab had absolutely avalached resources into Clacton - not least because I understand that the left and centre ceeding ground to the right only makes the right stronger - but with less than a week to go, that ship has sailed. You work with what you've got, not what you should have got 6 weeks ago.
 
Nonsense. He seems like a good 'un. He'll drop into a winnable seat in a matter of months.

It's this kind of bullshit and reluctance to step aside for the greater good (no shade on the Labour guy - he's not actually moaning) that means Joe Fucking biden is hanging on to lose to Trump later this year and I have no fucking time for it. There are bigger things at stake.
 
Nonsense. He seems like a good 'un. He'll drop into a winnable seat in a matter of months.

It's this kind of bullshit and reluctance to step aside for the greater good (no shade on the Labour guy - he's not actually moaning) that means Joe Fucking biden is hanging on to lose to Trump later this year and I have no fucking time for it. There are bigger things at stake.

Nah, if you've a good candidate who seems to be popular and is taking at least some of the wind out of Farages sails you should let him keep on going.

Its good for morale of the people on the ground in Clacton, its cheap, and with the sheer majority Labour is rumoured to be due you don't really need a random candidate from Clacton shoring people up elsewhere.
 
Is that not a tactical retreat? If was an incoming Labour gvt I be tempted to sacrifice one extra MP I don't need for a better chance of no NF MP?

Having frogman in the commons is going to make governing far harder.
The problem as I see it is that it's a view taken solely with the pursuit of power in mind, not principle. When nick griffin stood in Margaret hodge's seat there was a great campaign to ensure a Labour victory. There should be one in Clacton if they are a party of principle rather than wedded to the beancounters. Instead they have used a simplistic cost benefit analysis and left not only clacton Labour members and supporters in the lurch, but also any remaining anti-fascist credentials they might have retained. Wasn't it in clacton that britain first offered ukip security 10 years ago? There or thereabouts anyway.
 
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If any of you were desperate enough to know what going on with Nadine Dorries
Take a peak here.
The Irony.
It’s so they (and the rest of us) get to watch her have a massive drunken breakdown as her party goes down the shitter. I suspect they will make booze readily available to their hired-in pundits.
 
I don’t know who electionmapsuk are - the website says it’s run by a 22 year old student - so I would take this screenshot of what their algorithm says for my constituency with a massive pinch of salt.

But it implies a four way marginal, with a huge anti-Tory vote one way or another, swing chiefly from Tory to reform which suggests no one here has really changed their politics, they just want the tories out. End result is the incumbent Tory just retaining the seat. The Lib Dem candidate is a longstanding councillor though the council are vocally hates on social media for their attempts to pedestrianise a road in the town centre, the usual complaints like why can’t I park everywhere for free, and has been active campaigning locally as far as I can tell.

The reform and Labour candidates are more or less paper candidates I think (Labour guy is 19, no idea about reform but we did have Farage in the constituency on Monday addressing a 1500 person Trump style rally) but if you aren’t following things closely you’d not know that and may vote for a party based on the leader
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My gut feeling is the Labour and possibly reform support is overstated by this algorithm, see electoral calculus for a different view New Seat Details - Newton Abbot and it’s a really a two or three way race but what if it isn’t?

I would not be surprised if this sort of pattern is seen in a lot of small working class towns. I wouldn’t describe Newton Abbot as left behind, it’s not the same as Ashfield judging by that Novara video, but there are some demographic similarities.

It does make me think there is a sizeable majority who want the tories out but still want Tory style policies on immigration and low tax (for themselves anyway)
 
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