Star Trek: Discovery

[magneze]

I almost gave up after last week's which I thought was shit. Much better this week although I'm surprised they didn't try the guy's children's names as the password. That's like 1 level up from 'password'.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Redeemed by David Cronenberg

Oded Fehr, too - I was just watching Resident Evil Extinction the other day and wondering what he was up to.

 

[T & P]

I can’t make my mind up about this season... It’s alright but I’m getting a bit bored with the various characters small-fry subplots...

I think I am missing a proper good old fashioned formidable adversary and overhanging doomsday threat as the season’s story arc.. S1 the best for me still.

 

[strung out]

Disagree - another fantastic episode I thought and by some distance the best season of the show so far.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yeah you can't go wrong with a good slave rebellion. Having their one little ship fuck up those three capital ships with a couple of shots each at the end was a bit much, but I suppose you have to do that sort of thing so you're not just setting the newly free slaves up for murderous reprisals from the baddies the instant the heroes fuck off.

 

[agricola]

Not sure about anyone else, but it seems the good episodes of Disco are where they explore the universe they find themselves in, and the bad ones are usually where they try to hark back to / link in with other Trek shows.

Spoiler

... and that was pretty bad, the pointless academic dance off thing and the sensor network that was some stargates especially

 

[SpookyFrank]

They keep saying 'millionths of a microsecond' instead of just 'picoseconds' and it's getting right on my tits.

 

[Saul Goodman]

They keep saying 'millionths of a microsecond' instead of just 'picoseconds' and it's getting right on my tits.

Do you think a strongly worded letter might be in order?

 

[Ax^]

very disco episode

so which timeline of trek are we in

unification not their fucking planet went kaboom

 

[T & P]

I can’t remember the exact words now, but after Michael had cheekily invoked the ancient challenge, the planet leader woman pretty much paraphrased Darth Vader’s “You might dispense with the pleasantries, Commander” quote off Return of the Jedi when someone else tried to sweet talk her

 

[krtek a houby]

By the way, I don’t get the Burnham hate at all. I’m obviously not seeing the same thing. And blaming Martin-Green for directing decisions you don’t like is bizarre.

Just watched the 1st ep of season 3 - she's great. From sorrow to joy to mind altered. Don't see what the problem is with her, although I recall some people were initially frosty about Janeway and Kate Mulgrew when Voyager began.

Lovely Icelandic scenery in that ep, btw.

 

[SpookyFrank]

very disco episode

so which timeline of trek are we in

unification not their fucking planet went kaboom

Let's all just pretend the JJ-verse never happened.

 

[danny la rouge]

Let's all just pretend the JJ-verse never happened.

The Romulan home world went kaboom in Picard. But of course there’s no reason Vulcans and Romulans couldn’t have had reunification on the planet formerly known as Vulcan in a universe where Romulus went kaboom.

I liked the new name. *nerd alert.

 

[mwgdrwg]

She cried again.

Truly the worst actor I've ever seen.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Just watched the 1st ep of season 3 - she's great. From sorrow to joy to mind altered. Don't see what the problem is with her, although I recall some people were initially frosty about Janeway and Kate Mulgrew when Voyager began.

Lovely Icelandic scenery in that ep, btw.

The problem with her?

Has a range of either "wide eyed shock","crying", "head-tilt confusion-face", that's it.
Whispers her dialogue (her conversation for the Admiral had me laughing...just talk normally ffs!)
Zero subtlety.

 

[danny la rouge]

Don't see what the problem is with her,

Nor I.

There is too much crying and hugging for me. But that’s script and direction.

This was a poor episode. The logic dual was nothing of the sort. The hugfest around Tilly being made number one was excruciating. The Michael and her fella scenes went nowhere. And so on. But none of that is down to the actors. If they’re given 60 minutes of aimless emoting to do, I really don’t think that can be laid at their door.

 

[moochedit]

Let's all just pretend the JJ-verse never happened.

That applies to star wars as well as star trek.

 

[krtek a houby]

Nor I.

There is too much crying and hugging for me. But that’s script and direction.

This was a poor episode. The logic dual was nothing of the sort. The hugfest around Tilly being made number one was excruciating. The Michael and her fella scenes went nowhere. And so on. But none of that is down to the actors. If they’re given 60 minutes of aimless emoting to do, I really don’t think that can be laid at their door.

Only seen ep 1 of season 3, so I'll hold judgement on the remainder for now. But if we're talking ropey acting, the winner would have to be Bill Shatner or Avery Brooks, imho

 

[strung out]

Only seen ep 1 of season 3, so I'll hold judgement on the remainder for now. But if we're talking ropey acting, the winner would have to be Bill Shatner or Avery Brooks, imho

Huge disagree with Avery Brooks. He acts big, for sure, but he's one of the best actors Trek has had.

 

[krtek a houby]

Huge disagree with Avery Brooks. He acts big, for sure, but he's one of the best actors Trek has had.

Besides DS9, only seen him in American History X, and he was great in that, but felt he was a bit bland in Trek. Maybe need to rewatch.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Is it just me or has Burnham suddenly become a lot more whispery in the last two episodes?

 

[mwgdrwg]

Is it just me or has Burnham suddenly become a lot more whispery in the last two episodes?

It's not just you.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Not sure about anyone else, but it seems the good episodes of Disco are where they explore the universe they find themselves in, and the bad ones are usually where they try to hark back to / link in with other Trek shows.

Spoiler

... and that was pretty bad, the pointless academic dance off thing and the sensor network that was some stargates especially

I liked how the super-logical PhD defence thing immediately descended into personal digs and factional squabbling.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

It's a good job the latest Mandalorian episode was so good, because Discovery was pants this week.

 

[T & P]

I don’t know what to make of this season anymore, and whereas I don’t think it’s inferior to the previous, I think I am starting to lose my enthusiasm for the series as a whole. I feel it lacks direction as to whether it wants to have a long and ever-developing story arc as its driving force, or use a stand-alone episode formula with a much more tenuous overall arc a la Next Generation. It just feels a bit random atm.

To be fair, I don’t think I am doing my judgement of this any favours by being in the habit of watching every episode still on a massive high right after having just watched the new episode of The Mandalorian. Perhaps I ought to pick a different viewing time...

 

[Buddy Bradley]

To be fair, I don’t think I am doing my judgement of this any favours by being in the habit of watching every episode still on a massive high right after having just watched the new episode of The Mandalorian. Perhaps I ought to pick a different viewing time...

Or watch them in the opposite order? I always watch ST first.

 

[mwgdrwg]

Me too, Mando cleanses this shite from memory for a while.

 

[lazythursday]

I loved the first season of this, precisely because it wasn't much like Star Trek and was arc-based more than episodic. But now it has been bludgeoned into a more familiar mould, and has lost its way. I really liked the characters, apart from Tilly, now I just watch in the hope one might combust in another Burn.

 

[moochedit]

Or watch them in the opposite order? I always watch ST first.

Yeah me too. Leave the best til last!

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Did they ever explain how Burnham managed to grow her hair out so incredibly fast? She went from a close shave to 3 feet of braids in a year!