Star Trek: Discovery

[mojo pixy]

The production is fine, it's the writing that's crap.

tbh that's true for 99% of tv dramas today.
in other news, I'm old and square so happy to take some of the blame for my scorn.

 

[danny la rouge]

They wrapped filming in February, so it's not missing any scenes, but all the post-production like sound, music, visual effects etc had to be done remotely.

If those inserted voice overs weren’t explaining away missing scenes, then they must have been explaining away bad writing.

 

[Mation]

Yeah, this series is basically the setup for getting Michael set up as Captain for next season.

That's what I was (quietly!) assuming from the start.

Spoiler

Got there eventually

 

[mwgdrwg]

Vom.

 

[Cloo]

Not seen the latest episode yet. But I can see in the one I just watched where they must have started running into filming problems due to Covid. A couple of edits are a bit odd, and there’s disembodied expositional dialogue off screen to link scenes. It’s clear the voice overs were done in order to replace scenes they couldn’t shoot, and it’s quite noticeable. Not sure what else they could have done, but these are things we'll look back on and recognise as pandemic consequences.

Oh I didn't notice that

Anyway, we enjoyed the conclusion, brought together lots of classic Star Trek themes... and did indeed end with the classic Star Trek theme.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It was a bit much expecting us to care about the drones 'dying' when we know they're just being contolled by the now-magic ship's computer.

 

[CNT36]

It was a bit much expecting us to care about the drones 'dying' when we know they're just being contolled by the now-magic ship's computer.

Still stuck on season 2. I think it was the plot with the girl in Tilly's head thst made me give up. Not one person suggested communicating with what was obviously an intelligent life form.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Still stuck on season 2. I think it was the plot with the girl in Tilly's head thst made me give up. Not one person suggested communicating with what was obviously an intelligent life form.

They probably just hate Tilly as much as the rest of us do.

 

[strung out]

It was a bit much expecting us to care about the drones 'dying' when we know they're just being contolled by the now-magic ship's computer.

The ship's memory was wiped, with the sphere data intelligence hiding in the dot 23 robots, which is why I think we were supposed to care that they were in danger. Agree it wasn't very well done though.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Spoiler

So is Doug Jones off the show now, then? Didn't feel like a proper send-off if so.

 

[Ax^]

after the speculation


"lets fly"

 

[krtek a houby]

First 2 EPs were great but felt that the rest of the series was disappointing, apart from the pantomime mirror universe which is silly fun.

And do like the Dustin Hoffman-like villain. Hopefully he'll be back.

 

[SpookyFrank]

The ship's memory was wiped, with the sphere data intelligence hiding in the dot 23 robots, which is why I think we were supposed to care that they were in danger. Agree it wasn't very well done though.

Yeah I completely missed that. Not least because it was a plot point in season 2 that the sphere data couldn't be deleted, hence them being forced to fuck off to the future.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Spoiler

So is Doug Jones off the show now, then? Didn't feel like a proper send-off if so.

Spoiler

I really hope not. His performance was about the only thing holding the whole three-part finale together. The show needs the character as well, and not just an assortment of plucky heroes doing borderline insane shit and somehow getting away with it. Star trek has always needed someone to be that voice of common sense, a reminder to the audience that there are some limits and some consequences in this universe.

 

[krtek a houby]

The standout characters, Georghiou, Lorca, Pike, Spock are gone or getting spinoffs. Now Saru? That's a shame.

 

[editor]

I thought it was watchable enough.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

And do like the Dustin Hoffman-like villain. Hopefully he'll be back.

Who are you referring to? The pirate dude that got thrown off the lift?

 

[Ax^]

depends how they handle the next season is it rebuilding the federation or just a reset

Spoiler: hmm

season 3 was disappointing because of how they handled the sphere data

suddenly never matters until episode 11

 

[MickiQ]

Just finished the final episode and enjoyed it except for the utterly ridiculous elevator chase sequence, there is no way that the Discovery is that large inside and has such huge amounts of wasted volume unless the 32nd century Federation has figured out how to build a Tardis

 

[Cloo]

Just finished the final episode and enjoyed it except for the utterly ridiculous elevator chase sequence, there is no way that the Discovery is that large inside and has such huge amounts of wasted volume unless the 32nd century Federation has figured out how to build a Tardis

My husband said more or less the same thing!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Looks like ridiculously earnest scientist-for-the-baddies guy is sticking around though, so...yay.

'I object to all this mind control and torture and shit, I'm only gonna participate in it for a few more episodes'

 

[krtek a houby]

Who are you referring to? The pirate dude that got thrown off the lift?

That's the guy.

 

[Graymalkin]

Just finished the final episode and enjoyed it except for the utterly ridiculous elevator chase sequence, there is no way that the Discovery is that large inside and has such huge amounts of wasted volume unless the 32nd century Federation has figured out how to build a Tardis

It's just so silly isn't it? The older shows had plenty of fx gaffs, weird kitbash ships, etc. but that was usuallya result of time/budget constraints. This is just poor, "spectacular for its own sake", writing, and they clearly either don't care about consistency or there's a serious lack of communication between the writing and art/fx departments.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

It was kind of like Hogwarts' self-rearranging stairs.

 

[Ax^]

if you geeky enough to look up turbolifts, you need shite loads of inner space for them to operate

 

[Graymalkin]

if you geeky enough to look up turbolifts, you need shite loads of inner space for them to operate

Ok, lets get geeky. The Jefferies tubes, also featured in Discovery, were the established spaces for internal maintanence. The thing about that scene that is so inconsistent is that the lifts had to be moving at at least 10 m/s and the scene lasted more than a minute. The established length of the Galaxy class (Next gen enterprise) is IIRC about 680 meters. The internal volume in that scene was large enough to house the largest federation ship we've yet seen on screen.

 

[Ax^]

hmm more geeky length if 641 meters, an overall width of 473 meters, and an overall height of 133 meters.

 

[Graymalkin]

You're right, 680 m is the longer but lower volume Sovereign class.

 

[danny la rouge]

Lol. I’m out of my depth, but for once I’m delighted. Thanks for the ego boost, guys.