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Exactly.
Princess Lay-her
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Getting twitchy about episode 4 now and tempted to get up extra early in the morning to watch it before going to work.
The press were sent the first four episodes in advance in one go for review, rather than the first three only, and every report I’ve seen so far suggests it is not just as good as the preceding ones, but actually better by virtue of consolidating and developing the story so far very nicely. I guess the very reason Disney let the reviewers watch the fourth episode before launching the series
The press were sent the first four episodes in advance in one go for review, rather than the first three only, and every report I’ve seen so far suggests it is not just as good as the preceding ones, but actually better by virtue of consolidating and developing the story so far very nicely. I guess the very reason Disney let the reviewers watch the fourth episode before launching the series
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Absolutely. Further confirmation, if anyone still needed any, that this Star Wars show is all about delivering a great narrative story and bullding three-dimensional characters, with a distinct zero reliance on fan service and cheap Easter Eggs to boost its likability.
I loved episode 4. Deftly continues to develop the premise, build up the background story of the main character, and just as crucially, also an increasing array of supporting characters, including those working the Dark Side. I’m particularly pleased about that last bit actually, as I’m sure will many others.
Skarsgard is bloody superb in this. The opening sequence with him and Diego Luna on the ship was fantastically enjoyable. I was more excited and thrilled by that dialogue than most action sequences on Boba Fett or Obi Wan. Even small understated things like the jump to hyperspace that made Cassian fall on his arse were thrilling
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ska invita
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just watched the first 3 and hard not to agree
its an adult star wars though, not sure what peoples kids are making of this ...
reminded me of terry gilliams brazil without the humour
i guess Rogue One was meant to be the serious one of the films too, so they're carrying on that legacy here. this is a lot better than rogue one though.
i really loved lots of the western elements of boba fett and mandalorian too, but those shows tone went a bit more all over the place - this is a much more focussed one-tone series
really well put together...i actually feel feelings watching it
some real depth to characters! its a shockfeels like a lot more biting politically as well
i like how the director (who has clearly done a fantastic job on this) has come off the back of making Brexit: The Uncivil War
some serious parallels 
Good editing too,... all the production aspects are spot on.More british regional accents than anything made by the BBC!!
Looked a lot like john thompson from the fast show as one of the two blokes who gets killed in ep1 - was slightly off putting
So yeah, this is excellent...12 episodes! and told with proper pacing and story arcs....what a treat. And not a single star wars call back so far - fingers crossed it manages to refrain all the way to the end. I think it will... no "20 easter eggs you didnt see" youtube videos - bliss (and if there are dont tell me)
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
The 'John Thomson' lookalike - Lee Boardman - played Aron Banks in the Brexit film. He also had long runs on Corrie and Rome.just watched the first 3 and hard not to agree
its an adult star wars though, not sure what peoples kids are making of this ...
reminded me of terry gilliams brazil without the humour
i guess Rogue One was meant to be the serious one of the films too, so they're carrying on that legacy here. this is a lot better than rogue one though.
i really loved lots of the western elements of boba fett and mandalorian too, but those shows tone went a bit more all over the place - this is a much more focussed one-tone series
really well put together...i actually feel feelings watching it
feels like a lot more biting politically as well
i like how the director (who has clearly done a fantastic job on this) has come off the back of making Brexit: The Uncivil War
More british regional accents than anything made by the BBC!!
Looked a lot like john thompson from the fast show as one of the two blokes who gets killed in ep1 - was slightly off putting
So yeah, this is excellent...12 episodes! and told with proper pacing and story arcs....what a treat. And not a single star wars call back so far - fingers crossed it manages to refrain all the way to the end. I think it will... no "20 easter eggs you didnt see" youtube videos - bliss (and if there are dont tell me)
ska invita
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that sounds even more off putting/confusing! i consider myself lucky that i dont really know any actors names and faces, especially modern ones
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I really love this show.
I know nothing much happened in ep.5, but it is such a refreshing change to have a big budget programme spend an entire episode properly setting things up / developing characters and background like that. So many little gems of scenes (all the ones with the Lieutenant doing his rounds for example) that just weren't in the other two shows to any great extent.
In terms of plot predictions, I wonder if the ISB officer trying to investigate those thefts will recruit Karn when she finds out he is on Coruscant and may be in possession of vital evidence (which conceivably can expose Rael too as IIRC Karn can ID him)?
In terms of plot predictions, I wonder if the ISB officer trying to investigate those thefts will recruit Karn when she finds out he is on Coruscant and may be in possession of vital evidence (which conceivably can expose Rael too as IIRC Karn can ID him)?
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Having just watched ep 5, I was coming here to post pretty much exactly what you have said.
Not just the best episode yet, but bloody good, period. Packs more character development (and covering a far wider range of characters from both sides of the conflict, for good measure), and well written drama storytelling than all the previous SW shows put together.
After the end of episode 4 I was expecting the raid would take place in this episode. If someone had told me before watching it that this entire episode would in fact cover just a mere 24 hours further and we’d have to wait until next week, I would have likely be concerned about whether it was going to be a bore and kill the pace. So credit to the writers for delivering a highly gripping and enjoyable episode. I literally lapped up every second of it.
Also, that TIE fighter low pass as well…
Fucking brilliant episode
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Having just watched ep 5, I was coming here to post pretty much exactly what you have said.
Not just the best episode yet, but insanely bloody good, period. Packs more character development (and covering a far wider range of characters from both sides of the conflict, for good measure), and well written drama storytelling than all the previous SW shows put together.
After the end of episode 4 I was expecting the raid would take place in this episode. If someone had told me before watching it that this entire episode would in fact cover just a mere 24 hours further and we’d have to wait until next week, I would have likely be concerned about whether it was going to be a bore and kill the pace. So credit to the writers for delivering a highly gripping and enjoyable episode. I literally lapped up every second of it.
Also, that TIE fighter low pass as well…
Fucking brilliant episode
One of the Youtube reviewers said the writers had managed, for the first time, to make Tie Fighters scary:
.... which I thought was a great point
.... which I thought was a great point
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I reckon someone at Disney had implored to Tony Gilroy, who had been from the off very insistent this series was not indulging in any nostalgic fan service nonsense all the previous shows had relied on, to ‘for god’s sake, please include at least one or two nostalgic nods to the original trilogy’. And Gilroy went ‘here’s your fucking fan service nod’.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Well this is extremely boring so far.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
This is one of the best things on TV for quite a long time.
Liked all of the episode, and I've got enough faith that bits that didn't on a first viewing make sense (why the communications to the airbase were deliberately left open, why the communications guy wasn't captured like everyone else was) will be cleared up rather than just left hanging like in so many shows.
My guess on just having seen it is that Cinta has killed all the hostages, and is (edit: when we last see her) about to spark the Imperial Army troops into massacring the Aldani gathered to watch the festival to try and kick things off on the planet and increase repression elsewhere (IIRC she was the only member of the team that the people left alive in the base didn't see and walked out of there calmly, which suggests the hostages aren't going to be telling anyone else). Not cutting the communications to the airbase might have been to encourage them to send TIEs that they (the rebels) knew beforehand how they were going to kill. It is perhaps notable that the guy right at the end in Rael's shop said "big rebel attack" rather than a heist where only a few on both sides were killed (which the Empire would probably want to cover up), and of course Rael sells artifacts from dead cultures.
Most of all though I think Andor has figured this out, hence him bailing.
My guess on just having seen it is that Cinta has killed all the hostages, and is (edit: when we last see her) about to spark the Imperial Army troops into massacring the Aldani gathered to watch the festival to try and kick things off on the planet and increase repression elsewhere (IIRC she was the only member of the team that the people left alive in the base didn't see and walked out of there calmly, which suggests the hostages aren't going to be telling anyone else). Not cutting the communications to the airbase might have been to encourage them to send TIEs that they (the rebels) knew beforehand how they were going to kill. It is perhaps notable that the guy right at the end in Rael's shop said "big rebel attack" rather than a heist where only a few on both sides were killed (which the Empire would probably want to cover up), and of course Rael sells artifacts from dead cultures.
Most of all though I think Andor has figured this out, hence him bailing.
Are the imperial staff paid in cash? 
ruffneck23
front left
Loved it. although watched it in 2 halves.
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Episode 7. Oh my fucking word… 
Not only it is the best episode by a country mile, it is the moment this show comes of age. Let me say first of all to those unsure about the series in general, or disappointed about such things as the pace, lack of empathy towards the titular character, or a boring story so far, that this episode will (or certainly should) sweep away such concerns.
It is fantastic. It is multi-layered. It involves multiple characters and storylines, and make them fully three-dimensional. It will make you cheer and care for certain Imperial characters that remain firmly in the ‘baddies’ camp more than you’ve cared for many Rebel Alliance or Resistance goodie characters. It’s fast paced and gripping, and all achieved through nothing more than good storytelling.
Bloody brilliant
Not only it is the best episode by a country mile, it is the moment this show comes of age. Let me say first of all to those unsure about the series in general, or disappointed about such things as the pace, lack of empathy towards the titular character, or a boring story so far, that this episode will (or certainly should) sweep away such concerns.
It is fantastic. It is multi-layered. It involves multiple characters and storylines, and make them fully three-dimensional. It will make you cheer and care for certain Imperial characters that remain firmly in the ‘baddies’ camp more than you’ve cared for many Rebel Alliance or Resistance goodie characters. It’s fast paced and gripping, and all achieved through nothing more than good storytelling.
Bloody brilliant
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Quite a few/ interesting amusing things to take away. Is this the first instance in SW of Television and TV programmes as we know them IRL? Ditto stiletto heels.
Also loved the soundtrack, including the Chemical Brothers-like techno music heard during the ‘resort’ sequence.
And of course, the cruel tease at the end when a KS droid appears in the picture.
Also loved the soundtrack, including the Chemical Brothers-like techno music heard during the ‘resort’ sequence.
And of course, the cruel tease at the end when a KS droid appears in the picture.
Epona
Sonic: 1 Nov 2006 - 8 Jan 2022
I saw the first 3 episodes and am currently in wait til the end and then binge watch the entire thing mode (being able to binge watch stuff helps a lot with my facial recognition issues, gaps between episodes do not ).
I absolutely loved eps 1-3 and cannot wait to watch the entire thing.
).I absolutely loved eps 1-3 and cannot wait to watch the entire thing.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Episode 7. Oh my fucking word…
Not only it is the best episode by a country mile, it is the moment this show comes of age. Let me say first of all to those unsure about the series in general, or disappointed about such things as the pace, lack of empathy towards the titular character, or a boring story so far, that this episode will (or certainly should) sweep away such concerns.
It is fantastic. It is multi-layered. It involves multiple characters and storylines, and make them fully three-dimensional. It will make you cheer and care for certain Imperial characters that remain firmly in the ‘baddies’ camp more than you’ve cared for many Rebel Alliance or Resistance goodie characters. It’s fast paced and gripping, and all achieved through nothing more than good storytelling.
Bloody brilliant
I disagree slightly with it being the best episode (I still think 6 was the best so far) but it was incredible to watch.
The way the Empire is portrayed is fantastic, which is a huge surprise to me because of how cartoonish Star Wars has historically portrayed "evil" (even at its best in things like Knights of the Old Republic). To think about and then portray the colossal banality of that society (rather than all the things that normally ruin TV nowadays like explosions / needless cameos / dramatic scenes where EVERYTHING IS AT RISK) deserves the highest praise.
Karn's interview for example was just brilliant - how he forces himself (to get a job he clearly hates) to honestly describe what happened to him and to his men; how his new boss clearly doesn't listen to a word he is saying because he expects the only person who wants a job there will have committed some minor fuckup like causing a flood in a bathroom (rather than raiding another planet to arrest a murderer). How the boss then expects him to be grateful to play his part of such a miniscule cog in the great machine. It was one of the best scenes I've seen in ages, up there with the Arya / Tywin or the Maester Aemon telling Jon Snow who he really is scenes from GoT at its height.
I do wonder though where the resort bit actually is in the timeline, could it be years before most of what we've seen so far (didn't he mention to Skeen that he'd been in prison)? Andor did seem different, more naive.
Karn's interview for example was just brilliant - how he forces himself (to get a job he clearly hates) to honestly describe what happened to him and to his men; how his new boss clearly doesn't listen to a word he is saying because he expects the only person who wants a job there will have committed some minor fuckup like causing a flood in a bathroom (rather than raiding another planet to arrest a murderer). How the boss then expects him to be grateful to play his part of such a miniscule cog in the great machine. It was one of the best scenes I've seen in ages, up there with the Arya / Tywin or the Maester Aemon telling Jon Snow who he really is scenes from GoT at its height.
I do wonder though where the resort bit actually is in the timeline, could it be years before most of what we've seen so far (didn't he mention to Skeen that he'd been in prison)? Andor did seem different, more naive.
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