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Rugby World Cup 2023
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sleaterkinney
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I think the thing I hated the most was the human centipede move they did every ruck before a box kick. Just trying to force mistakes, no width. I’m glad they’re not in the final as they could have won it.
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O'Keefe favoured England, imvhoDalllaglio on ITV blaming the ref
'O'Keefe won the game'
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SA deserve praise for adapting their game and some brave substitutions.
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better than england losing the match
is Dalllaglio being butthurt
Ireland fans all have same reaction to England legend asking for their support
is Dalllaglio being butthurt
Ireland fans all have same reaction to England legend asking for their support
That final penalty is his beef. But it looked pretty clear to me.
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As said upthread French whinging last week did us a favour in this respect. But overall I thought he was fair enough.
I think being a ref in rugby must be the hardest of jobs in officiating in major sports. The speed and the fact that they must have to guess a lot of the time due to the bodies lying all over the ball. Football and cricket are a cinch in comparison. Not a job I'd enjoy.
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Yipchaa!
But the players are so polite, and anything difficult you can send upstairs
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
To qualify for the plucky loser hat you at least have to score a try!
Nah, staggered there from the club I was at
On the ref stuff. The ref favours you based on what you show them at the scrum / breakdown. Every one is an opportunity to paint a picture to the ref that you’re the right side of legal. And both teams have an equal opportunity.
England dominated both in the first half, SA the scrum in the second, breakdown was more even.
I can think of teams I have backed who have only drawn ahead in the final minutes (Lions 2nd test NZ 2017!) sometimes it’s your day, sometimes it isn’t
England dominated both in the first half, SA the scrum in the second, breakdown was more even.
I can think of teams I have backed who have only drawn ahead in the final minutes (Lions 2nd test NZ 2017!) sometimes it’s your day, sometimes it isn’t
England made them adapt, but then didn’t respond to the adaptation
Gatland would have loved those tactics tbf, play to your strengths and stop the other team playing, but yeah a different game to what we saw last night
But that’s the beauty of rugby, so many different ways to win
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While I’m sad England aren’t in the final, I’m happy that Wayne Barnes will almost certainly ref it, and as he has reffed over 100 tests, and been involved in the knockout stages of 5 world cups, he deserves the chance to do a final.
Perhaps even his last game in the middle, I wouldn’t be surprised, but he’s still one of the best - and fittest - refs so could easily go for another season or two.
Next Saturday, a repeat of the 1995 final, sees both teams have the chance to win their 4th World Cup - SA have never lost a final, the only time New Zealand did was in 1995. It’s probably the two most rugby obsessed nations so it feels right that it’s the final in a way.
Sam Whitelock, the sole survivor from the New Zealand team in 2011, has the chance to be the first man to win 3 rugby world cups.
I still want SA to win though because of Kolisi; because of props like Ox Nche (if your nickname is Ox you have to earn it and keep earning it) and for Kwagga Smith’s nose (a player I’ve followed since he played 7s)
Perhaps even his last game in the middle, I wouldn’t be surprised, but he’s still one of the best - and fittest - refs so could easily go for another season or two.
Next Saturday, a repeat of the 1995 final, sees both teams have the chance to win their 4th World Cup - SA have never lost a final, the only time New Zealand did was in 1995. It’s probably the two most rugby obsessed nations so it feels right that it’s the final in a way.
Sam Whitelock, the sole survivor from the New Zealand team in 2011, has the chance to be the first man to win 3 rugby world cups.
I still want SA to win though because of Kolisi; because of props like Ox Nche (if your nickname is Ox you have to earn it and keep earning it) and for Kwagga Smith’s nose (a player I’ve followed since he played 7s)
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Think we proved conclusively that Fiji is the world's most rugby obsessed nation but I take your point.
Agreed about Barnes. I'm a big fan - in spite of the opprobrium of the bottle chucking masses in fairydanceland he has consistently been one of the best refs in the world for years. I'm always relaxed when he officiates matches involving Wales insomuch as I know it'll be a fair scrap between two rugby teams rather than the flight of fancy of an official's hubris. He's tight, insightful and consistent, which is all to his credit.
I, too, hope the Saffas win. Interesting that rolling over and being dominated by France like a bunch of cowering amateurs in the opening game could benefit the fairy dancers in the final. They've only really competed in one significant match rather than the three that the Bokke have
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Not to mention the fact that the best sides in the world are coached to cheat in a way that the officials won't pick up. Interesting that the French moans about the saffas blocking the kick chase was acted on tonight but not once before.
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Don't follow the game but tune in for the big matches. Not sure if I was watching rugby or a wrestling match - not a lot of slick play - but it was tense and had me hooked!Always felt like Boks would get back into it.. Seemed like a game of attrition, intentionally so and England getting worn down and out in the end. What a performance by both sides
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I wondered if England had swapped out more players in the middle of the second half they’d have held onto the lead. SA swapped out all the bench during the second half, they must have had fresher legs at that point, and that, given how physical the game was, must have been an advantage.
Quite unsavoury
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Tom Curry accuses South Africa hooker Bongi Mbonambi of using racial slur
The England flanker Tom Curry alleged to the referee during his side’s defeat by South Africa on Saturday that he was racially abused by the Springboks hooker Bongi Mbonambi
No idea what was said but first thoughts are that right cunt is very similar to white cunt and maybe what was said
Can’t say I’m a fan of the “sir, sir” methodology full stop
Anyway, it’s a bit like DuPont moaning about the ref last week, it’s irrelevant as the match is over and comes across as a loser having a whinge
Can’t say I’m a fan of the “sir, sir” methodology full stop
Anyway, it’s a bit like DuPont moaning about the ref last week, it’s irrelevant as the match is over and comes across as a loser having a whinge
Well, no he's not actually whinged about it at all. It was the broadcaster who picked up his question to the ref. Curry has downplayed it.
I seem to recall Joe Marler getting a ban for making a similar racist comment against Wales.
In my, admittedly layman’s view, it was the subbed on props that cost England penalties and thus the game. Unsure how long Marler and Cole could’ve lasted but they were at least matching the Bocks up front. Add in the turnovers and kicking game that England were controlling, then they looked comfortable - or at least much more than when Genge/Sinckler came on. I remember thinking at the time, ‘these props could be the weak link here’.
Perhaps someone else could shed light on whether Marler and Cole could’ve lasted?
