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My god. What the fuck did we just see today.

That was an utter annihilation of the field by Jumbo. Kuss was actually laughing as he crossed the line. 1-2-3 on a huge mountain stage was made to look easy, never mind that they’re now 1-2-3 on GC as well.

Remco lost 27 minutes. Ooooops.
 
Stating the obvious does anyone know if there's team orders or they're going to turn it into a free-for-all..

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Fuck knows what happened to Remco yesterday, he’s ridden away from everyone today :confused:
It's very odd isn't it. You might expect a bad day to be 1-5mins down not 27 !
He was very consistent last year and proved the doubters wrong by matching Roglic in the late stages. Maintaining the performance is how you win obviously.
 
It's very odd isn't it. You might expect a bad day to be 1-5mins down not 27 !
He was very consistent last year and proved the doubters wrong by matching Roglic in the late stages. Maintaining the performance is how you win obviously.
If he'd only shipped five minutes Jumbo wouldn't have let him a break. He knew he'd never beat them after losing loads of time so presumably lost loads more so he could stage hunt for the rest of the tour. It's better prep for Il Lombardia in a way but he'll be up against a mega strong UAE team there. Anyway the guy is box office whatever he does.
 
""We'll see what happens, but there's still a margin and I'd still like to win," Kuss said afterwards. "This finish was too explosive for me, but I still have good feelings. I don't want to win the Vuelta as a present, for me that's not sport. They [Roglič and Vingegaard] know what I've done and they're also winners."

I guess Vingegaard is in a good position to say he is racing for the team if there's any weakness on Kuss's part now. So if anyone else breaks and Kuss can't follow, Vinegegaard can go after them and get the seconds..
 
""We'll see what happens, but there's still a margin and I'd still like to win," Kuss said afterwards. "This finish was too explosive for me, but I still have good feelings. I don't want to win the Vuelta as a present, for me that's not sport. They [Roglič and Vingegaard] know what I've done and they're also winners."

I guess Vingegaard is in a good position to say he is racing for the team if there's any weakness on Kuss's part now. So if anyone else breaks and Kuss can't follow, Vinegegaard can go after them and get the seconds..
Yesterday absolutely it JV in an even stronger position than they already were. But what on earth were the other teams - UAE especially - doing? It’s like they’ve given up completely.
 
""We'll see what happens, but there's still a margin and I'd still like to win," Kuss said afterwards. "This finish was too explosive for me, but I still have good feelings. I don't want to win the Vuelta as a present, for me that's not sport. They [Roglič and Vingegaard] know what I've done and they're also winners."

I guess Vingegaard is in a good position to say he is racing for the team if there's any weakness on Kuss's part now. So if anyone else breaks and Kuss can't follow, Vinegegaard can go after them and get the seconds..
I'm fine with anything apart from a Roglic win. A man that made the Skytrain look fascinating.
 
I'm fine with anything apart from a Roglic win. A man that made the Skytrain look fascinating.
Now Ineos look terrible. Apart from Ganna’s TT win they’ve looked far from their best. Not even top 5.

Will be fascinating today, will Jonas steal Kuss’ Vuelta?
 
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I'm fine with anything apart from a Roglic win. A man that made the Skytrain look fascinating.
Now Ineos look terrible. Apart from Ganna’s TT win they’ve looked far from a win. Not even top 5.

Will be fascinating today, will Jonas steal Kuss’ Vuelta?
It was Snake Roglic who stuck the dagger in today. OK it's a race and the strongest guy should win but in the case of Roglic in particular, would they have won Grand Tours without Kuss? This feels really sour.
 
It was Snake Roglic who stuck the dagger in today. OK it's a race and the strongest guy should win but in the case of Roglic in particular, would they have won Grand Tours without Kuss? This feels really sour.

Yeah, that was a mean performance. Kuss has dragged him through enough tough days.
 
I can remember Roglic overtaking people at the line a few times.
That time he lost the Tour to Pog after toodling behind the Jumbo train for three weeks and not attacking was one of my favourite days in cycling.
He has so many stans though. Can't wait for him to retire.
 
Bit of post-race interview with GCN commentary... I think when even Sean Kelly reckons you're being a dick with the poorly justified 'trying to win' shtick, probably time to reflect a bit. Excuse the twitter link, it's a Eurosport clip embed so probably not available elsewhere (well, other than the actual race live show obvs).

 
'Strange feeling, uh'

Yeah, funny that Rogla, have a think about it.
Roglic applying the adage that while their is no I in team there is a me.
Cycling is such a weird team sport it's more like individuals with helpers and whoever has the best helpers often wins. Sadly Kuss will always be best helper.
 
That time he lost the Tour to Pog after toodling behind the Jumbo train for three weeks and not attacking was one of my favourite days in cycling.
He has so many stans though. Can't wait for him to retire.
Yeah it was Gino Mader(RIP) he overtook on the line in Paris-Nice. He also blamed Fred Wright for that crash last year.
 
Yeah it was Gino Mader(RIP) he overtook on the line in Paris-Nice. He also blamed Fred Wright for that crash last year.
The Gino Mader thing I could kind of just about understand as there were bonus seconds on the line but I think a lot of other GC riders would not have done that. The Fred Wright thing was pure assholeism on the part of Jumbo PR team and Roglic.
I really can't understand his huge popularity apart from the underdog/ski jumper thing. The few Slovenians I know think he's a national hero and way more popular than the more likeable and basically better Pogacar
 
A whole day of Carlton Kirby and Robbie McKwen... Love to know what they're like after a steak lunch and a bottle of red. 😩
 
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