Owen Jones targeted and attacked

[Kaka Tim]

How do we know the online chatter happened before it was public knowledge? So far we have the say so of a few people on this thread.

there a quote from the gaurdian article earlier attributing it to "anti racist groups" monitoring far right websites. So - yeah - it could be bollocks - it could be kosher. But -tbh- the description of the incident makes it sound exactly like jones was singled out by a group of men for a kicking with no prior interaction. I dont know why people are so desperate to try and avoid the obvious conclusion.
Cos they don't like Owen Jones? We know he is a particular hate figure for the far right is constantly getting abuse and threats online and in person.

 

[chilango]

As this thread is still rumbling on. Here's why it matters. A list of p(not exhaustive) possibilities in ascending order of severity of implications going forward.

1. Bunch of blokes with far-rightish views but no organisational links spot "that leftie off the telly" in the pub and later drunkenly attackh him
2. a bunch of blokes influenced by far-right stuff online spot Owen Jones and decide to attack him
3. A bunch of Far-right activists are roaming the pubs looking for a target and spot OJ...
4. A Far-right group decides to attack OJ and gather intelligence as to his likely movements prior to the attack.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I think it likely that it was a political attack from an element of the far right or some in that orbit but its still a bit premature to claim it definitely was.

 

[SpineyNorman]

How do we even know if Jones exists? Maybe it's like the matrix or something.

 

[andysays]

If Jones didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him

 

[Proper Tidy]

Hold on, there's a trade union for lawyers

 

[Proper Tidy]

Brotherhood of Estate Agents

 

[YouSir]

there a quote from the gaurdian article earlier attributing it to "anti racist groups" monitoring far right websites. So - yeah - it could be bollocks - it could be kosher. But -tbh- the description of the incident makes it sound exactly like jones was singled out by a group of men for a kicking with no prior interaction. I dont know why people are so desperate to try and avoid the obvious conclusion.
Cos they don't like Owen Jones? We know he is a particular hate figure for the far right is constantly getting abuse and threats online and in person.

Because it gives them something to argue about on Urban.

 

[Athos]

Hold on, there's a trade union for lawyers

No, but then I've not practised law for over a decade.

 

[Proper Tidy]

No, but then I've not practised law for over a decade.

Fair enough. Was only pissing about anyway, everybody should be in trade unions or equivelent, freelance unions or whatever

 

[Athos]

Fair enough. Was only pissing about anyway, everybody should be in trade unions or equivelent, freelance unions or whatever

No probs. And agree re unions.

 

[MrSki]

Met Police arrest three men. Here

 

[cupid_stunt]

Met Police arrest three men. Here

Great news, just hope they have the right ones & the evidence for convictions.

 

[butchersapron]

What a weird thing to say: The attack was deplored by the Guardian editor, Katharine Viner and the Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn.

 

[Teaboy]

I hope they go to court and then spend 37 days arguing over the exact definition of premeditation. That'd be cool.

 

[cantsin]

“ bUT wE NEed eVIdenCE / maYBe it WAs JUst a GOod oLD SaT nighT tEAR uP “ etc etc

Met police arrest three men over assault on Owen Jones

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Usual caveats about not fucking up a case apply:

 

[Proper Tidy]

A James Healy of Portsmouth was subject to a football banning order a couple of years ago (Chelsea)

West Brom v Chelsea: Fans fined over Hawthorns pitch invasion

 

[butchersapron]

Another chelsea james healy Fans jailed over organised fight

edit - and yep, the ages match

 

[butchersapron]

Chelsea were at home the next day to leics, so up to the big city for a big night out first. This bloke can't help getting in trouble when chelsea play midlands teams can he? That's three times now.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Owen Jones attacker tells court far-right belongings are football-related

James Healy denies assaulting Jones for his political views, saying writer bumped into him

www.theguardian.com

The items found at the home of James Healy included pin badges with the names, logos or mottos of the far-right group Combat 18 and the banned loyalist group the Loyalist Volunteer Force, and a black flag featuring a “totenkopf”.......Healy told the court “I didn’t understand their meanings as respects the far right”

 

[oryx]

From the BBC website:

Mr Healy also allegedly had a football hooligan flag adorned with SS symbols and a collection of pin badges linked to white supremacist groups.

He told the court: "I'm a hoarder. I never throw anything away. I just had them all that time tucked away in the back of a drawer.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

A fascist hoarder.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I mean who hasn't gone through their cupboards one day and found a copy of the Protocols and a full SS uniform that they'd forgotten all about? and obviously never knew the meaning of in the first place

 

[Athos]

Hoarding explains hanging onto things you've acquired; it doesn't explain why he acquired a collection of neo-nazi paraphernalia in the first place!

 

[JimW]

My Struggle With Hoarding

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Hoarding explains hanging onto things you've acquired; it doesn't explain why he acquired a collection of neo-nazi paraphernalia in the first place!

According to the Graun article I linked to, he didn’t know what he acquired was “far right” crap. How old is this toe rag now? As he said he collected this stuff 20 years ago?

 

[rekil]

My Struggle With Hoarding

SSpark Joy

 

[Athos]

Hoards Wessel

 

[JimW]

SSpark Joy

Had to look that up, should probably buy the book.