Nicola Bulley Missing

[two sheds]

Difficult to tell when you're in bullying mode.

But yes.

 

[Spymaster]

Actually no, it was meant as a genuine contribution!

If the river theory is now looking very unlikely, unless she turns up at Morecambe Bay or one of the Cumbrian estuaries, then it's either "by her own hand" or "by the hands of others".

My contribution was to throw 'not under control of her actions" into the pot.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to say that the river theory is still the most likely scenario, but I think we're now at a stage where unless a body is found in the water or she's seen on cctv on land; neither possibility trumps the other.

 

[Spymaster]

You've been unusually aggravated and aggregating on this thread.

Sorry if you've found me aggravating but it often goes with the territory when standing as a beacon of reason in a raging sea of fatuity

 

[Duncan2]

Sorry if you've found me aggravating but it often goes with the territory when standing as a beacon of reason in a raging sea of fatuity

Guess the police are going to be quite reluctant to place much emphasis in Press Briefings on hypotheses along the lines of criminality being involved even if in practice they transfer resources away from accidental death.If abduction became the focus then the chances of someone having got away with an opportunistic crime must surely be quite slight.

 

[savoloysam]

I am a bit confused as to now it's transpired that there's a clear path out of where she was (the main path apparently) which is not covered by CCTV. If that's the case why were the police so quick to rule out foul play. Seems strange no?

 

[Aladdin]

I am a bit confused as to now it's transpired that there's a clear path out of where she was (the main path apparently) which is not covered by CCTV. If that's the case why were the police so quick to rule out foul play. Seems strange no?

This was why friends and family were adamant that everyone keep an open mind. They kept saying there was no evidence she fell in the river.
It's been an issue from early on. The police publicly stuck to one theory...which doesn't mean there aren't other theories but they did keep on insisting that they didnt suspect a third party involvement

Even at that you'd think they'd want to check the pathway and road just in case she was there at the roadside at any stage.

The police are hopefully doing a lot more than they can tell the public.

 

[Spymaster]

I think the police’s public insistence that there was no third party involvement was most likely an effort to reduce speculation that the partner was involved. Dismissing all 3rd party involvement so quickly seemed premature.

 

[PR1Berske]

A friend on Twitter has shared with me a screengrab of a Facebook group where the current "armchair detective" theory is that Nicola isn't real, and this entire story has been fabricated to promote "the tracking chip agenda"

It's too damn early in the morning for this.

 

[Elpenor]

A friend on Twitter has shared with me a screengrab of a Facebook group where the current "armchair detective" theory is that Nicola isn't real, and this entire story has been fabricated to promote "the tracking chip agenda"

It's too damn early in the morning for this.

Be interesting to know their stance on the pissing theory

 

[platinumsage]

I wonder what the most left field Twitter takes are

 

[friedaweed]

I wonder what the most left field Twitter takes are

That's just Falmer Palmer from the viz.

john maelgwyn davies
@panteryrod

grassland beef production with Charolais cattle on the coast of West Wales.

Gedorf my Laaand!

 

[friedaweed]

They've also said that the path and road need now to be investigated further. Hence the reitteration of the appeal for dashcam footage from cars that travelled on that road on the day.

Also...they are searching down river beyond the Shard bridge and towards the sea. Despite the expert Fielding saying its highly unlikely Nicola is there...slow moving river beyond the bridge etc..

There is also a friend of Nicola's saying that they still have not searched the large abandoned house..the one the owners said they needed to have a search warrant to search.

It's all a mess from the outside looking on...I hope the police are more able than they appear.

Yep, I knew all that. I was just being dishonest in an effort to see if I could get Spymaster to stay up rattling on about his theories until 3 am again.

The one good thing about this thread though is I find a couple of pages are enough for me to nod off.

 

[MickiQ]

My dashcam when it came had a card in it that stored only a maximum of 2hrs footage, I replaced it with a larger one but that only stores a maximum of 8hrs. The chances of anyone who drives through the village regularly having any relevant footage on their dashcam now is very low.
If there is an abandoned house and the owner is refusing the police permission to search it then it isn't going to get searched. They need a warrant to search private property without the owner's persmission and they can't get one unless they can convince a magistrate that they have grounds for thinking a crime has been committed there which they don't have.

 

[Spymaster]

Yep, I knew all that. I was just being dishonest in an effort to see if I could get Spymaster to stay up rattling on about his theories until 3 am again.

The one good thing about this thread though is I find a couple of pages are enough for me to nod off.

Nonsense. You're moths to my lamp. That's why so many of you keep quoting and tagging me.

It's ok to be infatuated.

 

[Spymaster]

My dashcam when it came had a card in it that stored only a maximum of 2hrs footage, I replaced it with a larger one but that only stores a maximum of 8hrs. The chances of anyone who drives through the village regularly having any relevant footage on their dashcam now is very low.

Absolutey. And of the 700-odd cars they're trying to trace, half of them won't have dashcams at all.

 

[friedaweed]

Nonsense. You're moths to my lamp. That's why so many of you keep quoting and tagging me.

It's ok to be infatuated.

You need to out another 50p in the meter our kid. The lamp was a bit dim yesterday.

 

[friedaweed]

Absolutey. And of the 700-odd cars they're trying to trace, half of them won't have dashcams at all.

I took mine out. I played it back once and all I could hear was some angry prick calling everyone a bellend.

 

[bluescreen]

It seems very likely that there was a good reason NB's partner was quick off the mark in calling the police, the same good reason that they were very quick to respond, the same good reason they are pretty sure she is in the water somewhere, the same good reason they are not treating it as crime. Not necessarily in the water near where her stuff was found, but maybe over the bridge and downstream of the weir in the tidal stretch.

I regret my earlier levity when I was mocking some of the dafter theories. It's desperately sad.

 

[Duncan2]

It seems very likely that there was a good reason NB's partner was quick off the mark in calling the police, the same good reason that they were very quick to respond, the same good reason they are pretty sure she is in the water somewhere, the same good reason they are not treating it as crime. Not necessarily in the water near where her stuff was found, but maybe over the bridge and downstream of the weir in the tidal stretch.

I regret my earlier levity when I was mocking some of the dafter theories. It's desperately sad.

I for one has not known that it was nb's partner that first raised the alarm having come upon phone and dog .

 

[Magnus McGinty]

I for one has not known that it was nb's partner that first raised the alarm having come upon phone and dog .

Someone recognised the dog who knew someone that knew it was theirs. Small community innit.

 

[not henry]

and quite right too, only stupid wankers are never in doubt

or are they

 

[RainbowTown]

I really feel for her young children. Goodness knows how they're feeling or managing to cope.

 

[Pickman's model]

It seems very likely that there was a good reason NB's partner was quick off the mark in calling the police, the same good reason that they were very quick to respond, the same good reason they are pretty sure she is in the water somewhere, the same good reason they are not treating it as crime. Not necessarily in the water near where her stuff was found, but maybe over the bridge and downstream of the weir in the tidal stretch.

I regret my earlier levity when I was mocking some of the dafter theories. It's desperately sad.

it's a sad day on urban when you can't mock some of the dafter theories posted.

 

[bluescreen]

I for one has not known that it was nb's partner that first raised the alarm having come upon phone and dog .

No Someone recognised her from her phone and phoned the school. The school called her home. He called the police and then went to the scene himself.

ETA I imagine the finder called the school because she didn't know the home contact number but knew that they would, or knew that her car was parked there and they might catch her before she left.

 

[Duncan2]

No Someone recognised her from her phone and phoned the school. The school called her home. He called the police and then went to the scene himself.

ETA I imagine the finder called the school because she didn't know the home contact number but knew that they would,

Yes I see

 

[Bingoman]

Police now moving search to the coast just breaking on Sky news

 

[Cid]

I think also worth noting that the police don't seem to be talking about that small path behind the caravan park as a possible route that she left by (it connects to Allotment Lane):

Also, we can say that she did not return from the fields along Allotment Lane or via the path at the rear of the Grapes pub onto Garstang Road.

Our enquiries now focus on the river path which leads from the fields back to Garstang Road – for that we need drivers and cyclists who travelled that way on the morning of January 27 to make contact. We have already done a lot of work around this, but every piece of footage helps us build up a picture of movements on that morning.

Further they say she doesn't leave via Rowanwater (some gated thingy). So it looks as if the CCTV gap refers to the river path up to Garstang road; walk of at least 500m, open fields and river path with overlooking houses by the looks of things. Separate from the non working CCTV that 'could have seen everything'.

They also say the derelict house over the river was searched.

<insert caveats about police competence/holding back info here>

 

[platinumsage]

Police now moving search to the coast just breaking on Sky news

It's hard enough for a lifeboat crew in an inflatable to see an alive swimmer at a reported location, not sure how a couple of blokes in two inflatables is going to be able to search for a body in "the sea", especially given the breezy conditions:

Nicola Bulley: Search for missing mother-of-two moves to coastline at Morecambe Bay

The 45-year-old went missing while walking her dog in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, on Friday 27 January. Her phone was found on a bench, still connected to a Microsoft Teams call.

news.sky.com

 

[Aladdin]

I think also worth noting that the police don't seem to be talking about that small path behind the caravan park as a possible route that she left by (it connects to Allotment Lane):



Further they say she doesn't leave via Rowanwater (some gated thingy). So it looks as if the CCTV gap refers to the river path up to Garstang road; walk of at least 500m, open fields and river path with overlooking houses by the looks of things. Separate from the non working CCTV that 'could have seen everything'.

They also say the derelict house over the river was searched.

<insert caveats about police competence/holding back info here>

Yes. The path is behind the small white gate behind the bench...as discussed.

Also there are more than one derelict house. They searched one but were refused permission to search the other very large one . The owners stating that the police would need a warrant and just cause

 

[friedaweed]

It's hard enough for a lifeboat crew in an inflatable to see an alive swimmer at a reported location, not sure how a couple of blokes in two inflatables is going to be able to search for a body in "the sea", especially given the breezy conditions:

Nicola Bulley: Search for missing mother-of-two moves to coastline at Morecambe Bay

The 45-year-old went missing while walking her dog in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, on Friday 27 January. Her phone was found on a bench, still connected to a Microsoft Teams call.

news.sky.com

Yep. If she's in the sea there's more chance of a dog walker coming across her body on a beach in a couple of weeks than there is anyone finding her through a boat search at this point.

My mate went missing years ago when he had a mental breakdown. He was last seen at Manchester airport where his luggage had been lost on a return flight to the UK. He was already in a distressed state when he landed. His gear going missing including his meds probably sent him over the edge. We spent weeks walking the streets of Manchester trying to find him.

Some weeks after he went missing his body turned up in the Manchester ship canal not far from where the river Bollin flows into the MSC. According to the Police he had been in the water for quite some time. He was identified by his tattoos one of which was the tongue pulling smiley face. His nickname was face. He had the last laugh with that one.

We have no idea what happened to him but one theory I've always considered is that he went into the Bollin which runs past right past Manchester Airport. We couldn't get the old bill to look at the CCTV even though there's tons of it around there. Probably the reason for that was he had a long history of mental illness, something we thought would encourage them to look at his case more thoroughly. Basically it was us looking for him and contacting all the agencies not the old bill.

I don't think the goofing about on here has anything to do with the case specifically just people's over/reactions and interactions to it and their speculation of what might have happened. A bit like a group of people discussing it in the pub. I don't see a problem with that. It's urban and it is what it is.