Massive worldwide IT outage, hitting banks, airlines, supermarkets, broadcasters, etc. [19th July 2024]

[moochedit]

In Nairobi?

No bedworth

 

[teuchter]

What a silly thread. It's plain to see that there is not "absolute chaos across the world". I guess it's exciting for the kind of people that watch Sky news though.

 

[moochedit]

In Nairobi?

Yeah this jokes getting very old

 

[cupid_stunt]

More serious problems.

UK Pharmacy services disrupted

A spokesperson for the UK's National Pharmacy Association says: "We're aware that due to global IT outages that services in community pharmacies, including the accessing of prescriptions from GPs and medicine deliveries, are disrupted today.

"We urge patients to be patient whilst visiting their pharmacy."

 

[moochedit]

What a silly thread. It's plain to see that there is not "absolute chaos across the world". I guess it's exciting for the kind of people that watch Sky news though.

No one is watching sky news atm (not a great loss)

 

[krtek a houby]

What a silly thread. It's plain to see that there is not "absolute chaos across the world". I guess it's exciting for the kind of people that watch Sky news though.

Complete lack of empathy for people who watch Sky News

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Well I don't know if they own them but the buck surely stops with them. They shouldn't have been allowed to roll out this update without MS's engineers thoroughly testing it and approving it.

No. That’s not how it works. It’s down to the vendor making the anti virus software to test the patch against standard configurations of operating system before release.
Not all Microsoft customers are affected. Just the ones using Crowdstrike.

 

[May Kasahara]

My trains were fine, unusually efficient in fact and everything at my work also seems fine. The IT guys behind me are sniggering and cracking wise in a nerd-like fashion.

 

[Serge Forward]

Yeah this jokes getting very old

Sorry, I didn't see krtek a houby's post. In my defence, the Internet's a bit fucked.

 

[Lazy Llama]

Although the fix mentioned in The Register article is pretty simple; removing the CrowdStrike agent file, for most corporate Windows machines which are locked down tightly with Bitlocker etc, this is pretty much impossible to implement - users can't do it as they can't boot to safe mode, they can't boot from another device, and the update can't be pushed out from the central service because the machines won't boot.

 

[Petcha]

No. That’s not how it works. It’s down to the vendor making the anti virus software to test the patch against standard configurations of operating system before release.
Not all Microsoft customers are affected. Just the ones using Crowdstrike.

Well that's a terrible model then. HSBC or whoever have been affected sign their contract with Microsoft, not Crowdstrike. Lawyers will be rubbing their hands I would think.

 

[Artaxerxes]

What a silly thread. It's plain to see that there is not "absolute chaos across the world". I guess it's exciting for the kind of people that watch Sky news though.

No empathy for people needing blood tests or taking flights?

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

They definitely have a contract with crowdstike.

 

[cupid_stunt]

What a silly thread. It's plain to see that there is not "absolute chaos across the world". I guess it's exciting for the kind of people that watch Sky news though.

Hospitals cancelling operations, GPs and pharmacies unable to access their systems, airlines grounding planes, bank payment systems going down, etc., etc.

Yeah, nothing to see here, move along.

 

[moochedit]

Sorry, I didn't see krtek a houby's post. In my defence, the Internet's a bit fucked.

Yep urban is randomly putting users posts in the wrong thread when is this madness going to end?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Depending on where in the supply chain and for how long, could this potentially fuck up prescriptions for quite some time?

There's been an ongoing global shortage of my meds for ages even without various systems going down, so have to assume this could have some impact there.

 

[Petcha]

They definitely have a contract with crowdstike.

Who, the end client? Crowdstrike is buried within Windows. They can reasonably expect Microsoft to test anything rolled out to them I would have thought as part of their contract.

 

[moochedit]

Well that's a terrible model then. HSBC or whoever have been affected sign their contract with Microsoft, not Crowdstrike. Lawyers will be rubbing their hands I would think.

If they have problems it's because they use crowdstrike as their anti virus so they will have a contract with them.

 

[two sheds]

Complete lack of empathy for people who watch Sky News

ordinary people who watch Sky News

 

[Artaxerxes]

Who, the end client? Crowdstrike is buried within Windows. They can reasonably expect Microsoft to test anything rolled out to them I would have thought as part of their contract.

That’s now how it works please just stop

 

[Petcha]

That’s now how it works please just stop

Well the BBC's tech correspondent would beg to differ

 

[Callie]

Hospitals cancelling operations,
Yeah, nothing to see here, move along.

Is that happening?

 

[souljacker]

Well the BBC's tech correspondent would beg to differ

He's wrong. It does happen. It's the BBC.

 

[moochedit]

Well the BBC's tech correspondent would beg to differ

Our windows pc's at my work are working fine. That's because we don't use crowdstrike as our anti virus. Geddit?

It's a third party application you install not part of windows itself.

 

[emanymton]

Is that happening?

No idea, but I have head of someone working in a pharmacy being unable to dispense prescriptions

Edit - See that was already mentioned

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Well the BBC's tech correspondent would beg to differ

The same BBC who interviewed a job candidate thinking he was a security expert?

It's been 15 years since best worst case of mistaken identity on BBC News

His face upon realising he was on TV is one we'll never forget.

metro.co.uk

 

[planetgeli]

Is that happening?

The Schleswig-Holstein university hospital in the north of the country cancelled all planned operations in Kiel and Lübeck due to the disruptions,

 

[Artaxerxes]

Well the BBC's tech correspondent would beg to differ

Good for him, this is my day job.

You buy your OS from MS and you are reliant on buying the software for antivirus from whatever vendor supplies it. MS has no obligation to test the software for you, that’s the vendors role.

CS does not appear to be bundled with windows defender and is just one of many security products like Fortinet that can be plugged into the windows and 365 landscape

My org is currently fine btw.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Is that happening?

Certainly hospitals in Germany are reported to be cancelling non-urgent operations.

The way this story is breaking, something like that happens in one country, then reports start coming in from other countries having the same problem.

It is the biggest and most widespread IT outage ever seen across the world.

But, according to teuchter everything in his world is fine, so that's OK then.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

If peoples computers are getting bricked this isn't going to get sorted until everyone buys new computers....
For some institutions that's... Months...years..... To get working again
Right?

Bricked doesn't mean dead, it just means it's not responsive right now. They all just need to be restarted and a fix applied. It could take a long time for some orgs though, manually fixing tens of thousands of PCs is not a quick job.