One is reminded of the babies-discarded-from-incubators lie from the Iraq war. They don't change their tactics much do they?
Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion
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One is reminded of the babies-discarded-from-incubators lie from the Iraq war. They don't change their tactics much do they?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The Germans were baby-killers in WW1. It's a very old meme.
teqniq
DisMembered
More bullshit:
www.altnews.in
4-yr-old killed in Gaza: Israel govt falsely claims video shows a doll, not a child - Alt News
Trigger Warning: Dead Body, Child Death [Editor’s note: It is unfortunate that we find ourselves in a position where we must fact-check a claim that portrays a deceased child as...
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The Kuwaitis paid millions of dollars to the Hill and Knowlton PR agency for that meme. They were badly ripped off.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
radical leftist? Are you high?
teqniq
DisMembered
Whether anything actually comes from it remains to be seen but hopefully it will give pause for though before they open their mouths:
www.icjpalestine.com
Labour leadership issued notice of intention to prosecute UK politicians for complicity in war crimes in Gaza - ICJP
London 16 October 2023- This morning, ICJP issued Keir Starmer, Emily Thornberry and […]
www.icjpalestine.com
editor
hiraethified
As you slide further and further to the right, your critical faculties are going the way of conspiracy theorists:
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Am I allowed to debate this or not? Thought you didn't want it on this thread?
Look, I understand why you guys think TC is right wing. But I'm telling you--watch the clip I just posted. You'll be surprised.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Some interesting recent polls from YouGov
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Sympathies for the Israelis Palestinian conflict
Thinking only of the continuing conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, do your own sympathies lie more with the Israelis or more with the Palestinians?yougov.co.uk
22 percent say UK should be more critical towards Israel than it has been. I don't see this reflected in our elected politicians. Whole swathe of this countries views are not being represented.
strung out
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Why do weirdos keep on wanting to fact check this? Babies were executed alongside their parents, and whether it was a bullet through the head, burning to death or some other gruesome end, the only effect of the continued obsession with fact checking this is to cast doubt on the rest of the Hamas operation or somehow minimise it/justify Hamas' actions.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Business as usual.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This may have have got list in so many pages. Someone posted up this letter to MP. A template by War on Want
secure.waronwant.org
Palestinians are facing mass ethnic cleansing as Israel enacts brutal collective punishment on the occupied Gaza Strip. Israel continues to trap 2.3 million Palestinians in the world’s largest open-air prison, as Israeli warplanes bombard densely populated residential areas, civilian and medical infrastructure — in blatant contravention of international law.
War on Want | Fighting Global Poverty
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Palestinians are facing mass ethnic cleansing as Israel enacts brutal collective punishment on the occupied Gaza Strip. Israel continues to trap 2.3 million Palestinians in the world’s largest open-air prison, as Israeli warplanes bombard densely populated residential areas, civilian and medical infrastructure — in blatant contravention of international law.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Rubbish. There were headlines worldwide about beheadings. it is important not to repeat lies like that, for I would have thought obvious reasons.
Yossarian
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I think it's been confirmed that infants and children were killed in the kibbutz attacks, though it's unclear that infants were beheaded. Apparently the "40 beheaded babies" claim originated with an Israeli reporter quoting something she'd heard from a soldier, and countless other outlets ran with it instead of verifying anything.
Definitely some sloppy/sensationalist reporting going on there but I don't think there was any plot to immediately respond to the biggest atrocity against Israeli civilians in the country's history by fabricating details to make it seem even worse.
editor
hiraethified
Oh right. So 'us guys' should completely ignore all the critical analysis over his statements, brush aside his idiotic conspiracy bullshit and his well documented support for white supremacists just because you say so?
Seriously, fuck off,
It's not "weird" to fact-check news stories, it's prudent--especially when they strongly resemble propaganda designed to rationalize state-sponsored mass murder. And when, as now, we find that certain stories are false, we should ask who planted them and why.
tonysingh
Random Clever and Witty Strapline
Unleash the banhammer on this fuckwit?
All I'm saying is watch the clip. It will change your opinion.
editor
hiraethified
The guy is a proven liar and a bullshitter. Why the fuck should I waste my time listening to a cunt like him, fanboy?
He says whatever he thinks will bring him personal gain.
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Why do you think it was lies? It was reported by civilian first responders, but understandably there hasn't been any photographic evidence to satisfy the ghouls.
It may or may not be true, perhaps a baby that was shot through the throat or had its neck slit open looks very much like a beheaded baby, and it's certainly true that journalists should do a much better job of fact checking stuff like this before reporting it as gospel, but quibbling from people about whether it was an execution by beheading or your common or garden firing squad says a lot about the people who are desperate to deny any kind of wrongdoing by Hamas.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I think there are a few MPs who would. Zara Sultana for one. I don't think the demo had any MPs except for Corbyn. They have all been warned off by Starmer.
Not just demo last Saturday but making any comments on social media.
Labour ‘bans’ MPs from attending pro-Palestine demos, warns members they may be expelled
Orwellian email warns members not to participate in protests against Israel’s obliteration of Gaza so that Labour can be ‘welcoming for all members’ Right-wing Labour general secr…
skwawkbox.org
Well if you won't watch it, we won't get anywhere. But I'm telling you that it disproves what you've been saying about him. You can start at 5 minutes if time is pressing, that's when it gets most interesting.
trabuquera
Modesty Bag
^ Al Jazeera certainly offers a perspective closer to "the Arab street" than anything else available in English, but it is worth noting that it's based in and funded by Qatar, which also (as a state) funds Hamas (for Qatar's own reasons, which are to do with sticking it to the Saudis and (arguably) giving ordinary Qataris an external cause to concentrate on rather than criticising Qatar's ruling petro-fuelled royals).
Like any other source of news it has strengths and weaknesses.
Like any other source of news it has strengths and weaknesses.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
I don't know, you haven't made a case for it. Actually I think you're probably wrong / barking up the wrong tree, and it's silly to just make some generalised, provocative statement then go 'you agree with me, right?' Well, no, I don't agree, but if you have a case to make then make it.
JimW
支那暗杀团
See they're equating support for the Israeli state with support for London's Jewish community.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
One story about a hedge fund destroying a town doesn't disprove anything about him being an antisemite. It probably doesn't disprove him being far right either.
JimW
支那暗杀团
I can't watch from here but one left take doesn't mean much, BNP supported some nationalisations etc What is the big deal?
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Labour are not moderate/centrist: they are run by pro-capitalist/pro-zionist/red-baiting scum. There are still some socialists in there but not in the leadership. With the greatest respect have you not noticed the vile antics of that lying toad Starmer (apologies to any toads reading)?
Oh alright, he attacks the vulture capitalist Paul Singer, explaining what he does and why he is evil. I've never seen anything else like it on the MSM. It's not just that it's coming from what used to be called the "Left," it also explains why he's being slandered, fired, demonized and so on.
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