Grenfell Tower fire in North Kensington - news and discussion

[ruffneck23]

I'm wanna buy some food n supplies tomorrow to donate to help people out. Where/who would I give it to?

I heard they have enough food so I went to the just giving link on the evening standard ( ahhh I know but it seemed to be the only one that would let me )

 

[Cid]

Daily Mail has published pictures and name of the man whose flat the fire is rumoured to have started in.


Ipso link here - Complaints form

Just having a quick scan of the PCC (code of practice):

3) Privacy *
i) Everyone is entitled to respect for his or her private and family life, home, health and correspondence, including digital communications.

ii) Editors will be expected to justify intrusions into any individual's private life without consent. Account will be taken of the complainant's own public disclosures of information.

iii) It is unacceptable to photograph individuals in private places without their consent.

Note – Private places are public or private property where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy.

5) Intrusion into grief or shock
i) In cases involving personal grief or shock, enquiries and approaches must be made with sympathy and discretion and publication handled sensitively. This should not restrict the right to report legal proceedings, such as inquests.



May be worth citing relevant bits of those in a complaint.

 

[ruffneck23]

If only she would shed that human skin and you saw her in her lizard glory you might say something different

You are icke and I want my fiver

 

[bimble]

Christ these people really are fucking parasites.

If you look though at the comments, people - DM readers - are not buying it, they are telling them to fuck off with the victim blaming, just like they told them to fuck off with the earlier attempt to blame the boss of the company which fitted the cladding. This is not going to go away so easily as some would like.

 

[Cid]

And Artaxerxes can you say where they published it?

 

[stethoscope]

Christ these people really are fucking parasites.

Proper scum.

 

[Artaxerxes]

And Artaxerxes can say where they published it?

I've attached screenshots here, if you want to go on the Mail site there is a big fuck off article

Grenfell Tower in North Kensington is on fire

I am not going on The Suns site, because even with all my adblockers I don't want that shit on my PC or to give them the traffic.

 

[Treacle Toes]

May didn't even have the fucking decency to meet any residents or volunteers, did an private visit with officials and some firefighters. Even the Mail and Express have been critical. Corbyn talking about practical support and offering sympathy to those affected. This has become the overriding image from today...

Pretty much sums up their fundamental differences as human beings.

 

[frogwoman]

Some 18 hours ago it was a skinny white guy in one article from the bastards, they've changed there minds now and tweeted a shot of a black guy sipping a pint saying it was him.

The Scum is now saying he's a bastard for knocking at his neighbours door with a sack of his clothing and telling them theres a fire.

Parasites is not a strong enough term for these fucking arseholes. Absolute cunts the lot of them.

How the fuck did they get hold of his number? They are going to end up driving someone to suicide.

 

[ruffneck23]

Like not like again

 

[Mr.Bishie]

It really is about time the likes of the scum, daily fail et al had there presses smashed. Close them down.

 

[mauvais]

I said it's important people have time and space now. Counselling would be a very bad idea for the reasons I mentioned. Talking to people, humanity and care, absolutely needed. I have been involved in offering NHS emergency mental health support in previous major incidents, I do honestly know what I'm talking about here.

Sorry - counselling was a poor choice of words on my part, as it can have specific meaning. I really mean availability of a broader set of helping services - as one example, The Samaritans, who self-describe as 'listening not counselling'. Pressing people into anything any time soon would be a bad idea. But equally holding all services back to a distant perimeter would be dangerous too. It's a difficult and delicate balance.

 

[stethoscope]

It really is about time the likes of the scum, daily fail et al had there presses smashed. Close them down.

Compulsory purchase their offices and turn them into social housing.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Compulsory purchase their offices and turn them into social housing.

I don't think there is an exorcist strong enough to clear the evil out of the place.

 

[agricola]

If you look though at the comments, people - DM readers - are not buying it, they are telling them to fuck off with the victim blaming, just like they told them to fuck off with the earlier attempt to blame the boss of the company which fitted the cladding. This is not going to go away so easily as some would like.

It will never go away. In fact, I can't think of a disaster more descriptive of everything that is wrong with a country than this one.

 

[brogdale]

It will never go away. In fact, I can't think of a disaster more descriptive of everything that is wrong with a country than this one.

Yes, grimly emblematic...hence Steve Bell's cartoon.

 

[J Ed]

It really is about time the likes of the scum, daily fail et al had there presses smashed. Close them down.

The multifaceted defence of the consequences of neoliberalism by these newspapers is indirectly killing people. Through cuts to the NHS, education, fire services, the bureaucratic and cruel mazes of the DWP and through countless other examples. This is basically violence and it is conducted because it harms us and helps them. It's that simple. That isn't limited to newspapers like the Sun or the Daily Mail though, it also applies to newspapers like the Guardian and the New Statesman which hold up the other end of neoliberalism with a different audience.

 

[Pickman's model]

Compulsory purchase their offices and turn them into social housing.

Squat their offices. Don't give them a cent.

 

[J Ed]

Squat their offices. Don't give them a cent.

Perhaps a couple of pence, more of a fuck you than total expropriation.

 

[ruffneck23]

Some guy on LBC a min ago was like what if we all dont pay our rent to the council , got shot down but I thought what a great idea , mass squatting FTW , that may tellem

 

[redcogs]

All empty luxury flats/houses in the locality should be taken over by the local authority and distributed to those rendered homeless by incineration. Why are steps not already underway? Perhaps they are?

 

[agricola]

The multifaceted defence of the consequences of neoliberalism by these newspapers is indirectly killing people. Through cuts to the NHS, education, fire services, the bureaucratic and cruel mazes of the DWP and through countless other examples. This is basically violence and it is conducted because it harms us and helps them. It's that simple. That isn't limited to newspapers like the Sun or the Daily Mail though, it also applies to newspapers like the Guardian and the New Statesman which hold up the other end of neoliberalism with a different audience.

Indeed, plus of course there is the failure even to do basic things like actually report the news.

One of the most spot on comments I've seen today was that bloke laying into the Press for only turning up when people had died, after spending years not noticing that people were warning of the danger posed to residents. If they can't do that in the same city they all live and work in, for a block that many of them will have driven past most days, what hope does the rest of the country have?

 

[ruffneck23]

Jezza is trying...

 

[J Ed]

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[redcogs]

Even a Tory local state could be forced to act, May and her spiv ghost government are weak and only need a push to start offering concessions.

 

[brogdale]

All empty luxury flats/houses in the locality should be taken over by the local authority and distributed to those rendered homeless by incineration. Why are steps not already underway? Perhaps they are?

Reason; the tory scum rentier councillors (or their tax-haven trust funds) own the investment assets...or homes as you or I might call them.

 

[bimble]

Is there actually a government at the moment?

 

[Pickman's model]

Even a Tory local state could be forced to act, May and her spiv ghost government are weak and only need a push to start offering concessions.

Some tories being given a push: an artist's impression

 

[J Ed]

Reason; the tory scum rentier councillors (or their tax-haven trust funds) own the investment assets...or homes as you or I might call them.

Yes, second they do this they lose much of their political and financial backing, surely.

 

[J Ed]

What good is a Tory government to you, Mr Vladimir 0.0001%, if it can't defend your property rights.