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Sue Gray and therese Coffey nominated for a peerage

I was perfectly serious when I said that that photo was her one redeeming feature. Pissed up, drink spilt down her front, she's suddenly decided it's a good idea to smoke a cigar.

The single thing she's ever done that I can relate to.
 
Surely it is the ultimate in "bent" to be a member of the House of Lords on account of what one of your ancestors did? Before the creation of life peerages, which I believe dates back to the 1960s, the titles awarded to Sue Gray et al would have passed to their children, and the children of their children, and so on.

I disagree - as fundamentally absurd as it is for someone to get a seat in the Lords because of what one of their ancestors did, at least it is out in the open (as in we know who they are and who will be sitting there after them) and at least the ancestor did something in the first place.

Now however we have the vast majority of people getting peerages for reasons that would never stand up to honest scrutiny. Why on earth is Claire Fox there?
 
It's like back when Ann Widdecombe was minister for prisons.

Pregnant women were chained to a prison offer when they went to hospital to give birth, and Widdecombe oversaw that policy, but some people thought that her worst crime was being overweight and not dying her hair often enough, so that her grey roots showed.

On the other hand, right-wing racist Brigitte Bardot, former French actor, was regarded as rather gorgeous back in the day.
 
I disagree - as fundamentally absurd as it is for someone to get a seat in the Lords because of what one of their ancestors did, at least it is out in the open (as in we know who they are and who will be sitting there after them) and at least the ancestor did something in the first place.

Now however we have the vast majority of people getting peerages for reasons that would never stand up to honest scrutiny. Why on earth is Claire Fox there?
I think we need to start an investigation. Why is Claire Fox a peer?
 
It might have been "extreme centrist" which needs no axis.

No, it was definitely “far centre”.

I took it to mean “so far to the right that you’re practically in the middle”.

“Extreme centrist” would be meaningful, if inaccurate.

I don’t think it was you - got the impression the person was a moron at the time..
 
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Hasn't the idea of ending the HoL been around for quite some time? Seem to remember it being mooted during the Blair years.

Unless it's a slow process; deliberately filling the place with as many unsavoury characters as possible until it implodes or the people are driven to distraction and raze it to the ground.
 
A fair number of the current members of the House of Lords called for it to be abolished before they were appointed to it.
 
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