teqniq
DisMembered
When absolutely scraping the barrel won't quite do.
Sue Gray and therese Coffey nominated for a peerage
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Toby Young is a professional provocateur - he loves winding people up and being talked about.
Sue Gray was a baffling choice for Starmer... She was never the right person to be Starmer's Chief Of Staff. Her background in the Civil Service was being the Director responsible for Propriety and Ethics - so she was not a Jeremy Heywood 'mover and fixer' type figure who could actively push through policies and ensure the right people were engaged. She also didn't have the extensive experience of practically pushing through policy and the issues around delivery and the crucial network skills that are needed for the CoS role.
She benefitted from Oliver Letwin's joke that "Our great United Kingdom is actually entirely run by a lady called Sue Gray…. Unless she agrees, things just don’t happen." This was absurdly flattering to Sue Gray and obscures the fact that people like Jeremy Heywood were bringing dubious people like Lex Greensill into the heart of Government and No.10 right under her nose. I can only assume that Starmer and advisers took comments like Letwin's at face value.
Sue Gray was a baffling choice for Starmer... She was never the right person to be Starmer's Chief Of Staff. Her background in the Civil Service was being the Director responsible for Propriety and Ethics - so she was not a Jeremy Heywood 'mover and fixer' type figure who could actively push through policies and ensure the right people were engaged. She also didn't have the extensive experience of practically pushing through policy and the issues around delivery and the crucial network skills that are needed for the CoS role.
She benefitted from Oliver Letwin's joke that "Our great United Kingdom is actually entirely run by a lady called Sue Gray…. Unless she agrees, things just don’t happen." This was absurdly flattering to Sue Gray and obscures the fact that people like Jeremy Heywood were bringing dubious people like Lex Greensill into the heart of Government and No.10 right under her nose. I can only assume that Starmer and advisers took comments like Letwin's at face value.
GarveyLives
Well-Known Member
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kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Yeah, bit like MC Corbo...
GarveyLives
Well-Known Member
Is this "Marvin Rees" connected in any way to the "Marvin Rees" who appeared to be critical of the actions of members of the public who decommissioned and disposed of the monument originally built to glorify Bristol white supremacist, Edward Colston, a member and former deputy governor of the Royal African Company, who was responsible for trafficking thousands of enslaved African people, and made himself a fortune in doing so? This, after years of complaints, which included a lack of action by the council he led.
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
I have to confess I don't really understand the Lords. I know we have hereditary peers, life peers, and then these lists of politicians' mates that come out every year. Surely the place must be bursting at the seams by now? Or does the existence of life peers imply that some people get to be a lord for a couple of years and then are kicked out and replaced with a newly ennobled batch? 
Lovely jubbly, a nice little earner if you know the right people
What?
LakieLady
Well-Known Member
Life peers as opposed to hereditary peers. I guess it doesn’t get full because life peers die off.I have to confess I don't really understand the Lords. I know we have hereditary peers, life peers, and then these lists of politicians' mates that come out every year. Surely the place must be bursting at the seams by now? Or does the existence of life peers imply that some people get to be a lord for a couple of years and then are kicked out and replaced with a newly ennobled batch?
trashpony
Hag
And/ or a lot do them don’t show up
Elpenor
a clown’s heart and a mandolin
Hahaha a woman is fat
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
This peerage list is nonsensical. Not that peerages make any kind of sense in today's climate, but rewarding people who clearly don't deserve any type of reward is batshit.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF I can't think of a finer illustration as to why we should let the hereditaries back in, and further increase the ranks of the religious to include the other Christian denominations as well as the other faiths (and none) instead of allowing the creation of life peers.
I mean, the idea of people getting a seat in a legislative chamber by virtue of their birth / the order of their birth or because of their position in their organized religion is objectively crazy - but at least it isn't bent. I would put money on us getting better and more representative decision making if we did that, too.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Surely it is the ultimate in "bent" to be a member of the House of Lords on account of what one of your ancestors did? Before the creation of life peerages, which I believe dates back to the 1960s, the titles awarded to Sue Gray et al would have passed to their children, and the children of their children, and so on.
Didn't he also emply someone, at tax payer expense, to sniff out those posting critical things of him of social media?
PTK
Paul Kegan
If Hitler had looked like Brigitte Bardot as a young woman (I am showing my age) then I imagine that some of the people here would be ardent Nazis, judging by their comments. I judge footballers on their football skills, pianists on their piano skills, and politicians on their policies.Hahaha a woman is fat
I'm interested in understanding what the point you're making is as I'd hate to jump to the conclusion it's sexist bullshit.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Post here long enough, doesn't matter what you post, some day someone will call you a tory. Sue, you great big tory! 
8ball
Merr xmas...
Post here long enough, doesn't matter what you post, some day someone will call you a tory. Sue, you great big tory!
I’ve been here ages and never been called a Tory.
Though I did get called “far centre” once.
Gerry1time
Did a wee in Dirac's toilet
I used to drink in one of the bars in the Lords. At the time, it was £1.80 for one of the largest and best Pimms I've ever had, basically a boozy fruit salad, all enjoyed sitting on a private river terrace overlooking the Thames.
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