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Glastonbury 2007 pt1: the build-up

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William of Walworth said:
Erm .. you not bothering with Glasto next year then david?

There'll still be plenty good going on I predict, if you hang in the best parts of the site ... :) :cool:
Im not going to prat around with threats to boycot on the grounds of Clear Channels involvement, but it would shatter what ever illusions I have left about the festival. To be honest I dont have that many. Its a great event and a pleasure to attend, but its nothing more than a really big festival. I dont harbour images of it as something important politicaly or culturaly anymore. Its just a lot of music in a field with some money trickling through to good causes.

On an honest note in years past Ive gone to festivals either on my own or only with one mate, but now this year Ive picked up a large crowd of us who are all keen to go nuts together. So we are all looking at Glastonbury a bit juandiced. The chances of all of us getting tickets are pretty thin on the ground so we are going to have to go with people missing and increasingly our festivals are about some pretty geographicaly dispersed group of mates getting together as all the other guff.

Living in Reading Im well sorted for easy access to a number of festivals like WOMAD, Glade and Reading, so I can do a few with no real time of off work. So for me there is very little muscaly that will be unique to glastonbury.

Ill joining the lemming dash to get tickets, just these days my enthusiasm is a lot damper than in years gone by.

Rambling sort of post there sorry mr Walworth.
 
No worries man. I understand your points. I'm very anti CCE as well. But I suppose I prefer to look at the glass half full!!

And Reading is a good deal more unshamedly corporate ... :mad:

I hope you and as many of your crew as possible manage unexpectedly to get Glasto tickets anyway. See you somewhere near here if so ... :cool:

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<from editor's pix>

It'll be my 12th in 2007, really can't miss it ... :)
 
William of Walworth said:
And Reading is a good deal more unshamedly corporate ... :mad:
Yeah but Reading is all about rock and lager. It does what it says on the tin. At Reading I dont have to listen to some 20 something bookeeper standing next to the Budwieser sponsored bar telling me they are really a reincarnated hippy, mouthing some faux budist philosophy they picked up from watching Dharma and Greg while telling me Glastonbury is the last unspoilt part of mysctical Englande.

Bit harsh I know, its a great festival, but some people do spout bollox about it.
 
david dissadent said:
Yeah but Reading is all about rock and lager. It does what it says on the tin. At Reading I dont have to listen to some 20 something bookeeper standing next to the Budwieser sponsored bar telling me they are really a reincarnated hippy, mouthing some faux budist philosophy they picked up from watching Dharma and Greg while telling me Glastonbury is the last unspoilt part of mysctical Englande.

Bit harsh I know, its a great festival, but some people do spout bollox about it.

Not me, and, my views on Ansheuser-Busch (SCUM!) and Budshiter are well known ;)

Being a left wing anti-big-corporation proper beer lover, I hate them and what they stand for with a sincere and deep passion, and they are about the worst corporate 'partner' Glastonbury and the 'Workers Beer Company' could have picked :mad: -- the only saving grace is that they don't have a monopoly -- I boycoytt them (and never go near the vile monstrosity called the Crown) in favour of the good range of ale at the Acoustic Tent field beer tent, and the Cider Bus.

Would like to go into how much or not the plentiful good things still around and still achieved by Glastonbury outweigh the disturbing compromises they've made, another time, when I have time. But preferring the all round ultra corporate Reading (who don't lift any kind of finger for any good cause), just because it's more 'honestly' corporate than Glastonbury shows well faulty logic IMO.

And to dismiss the whole panapoly of alternative/radical causes/ideas/cultures that Glasto still has in abundance because you don't like some strawman Aunt Sally of 'hypocrisy' is in my view unnecessarily and destructively cynical ... would you rather Glastonbury didn't exist?

You get embarassing twats at any Glastonbury, and at any festival. But people who are so stupendously self-unaware as to talk like the caricature that you have invented and then exaggerated for effect, are IMO pretty much in a tiny minority. Even up in the Green Fields there's as many if not more standard festie goers (ex-crusties, ex Travellers and so on) with a more basic festival philosophy as there are out and out leyline wibblers. Whose mystical bollocks is there to be (gently)** ridiculed and (affectionately)** laughed at anyway :p

**Cos they're harmless, essentially ... but I have zero time for their wibblings

W of W, most beer oriented and least New Age bollocks spouting, least 'mystical' hippy in Glastonbury ... when I hear the word 'workshop' I head for the Cider Bus :cool:
 
William of Walworth said:
Two more pix from the editor's sequence from last year, to get us in the mood ...

WoW - I think Lily Allen is headlining.

A little birdee tells me that she is one of your favourite current artists.

:cool:
 
I feel a bit old for Glasto now it just seems more hassle than it's worth and it's far too expensive. I'm no longer attracted to camping in a tent city getting wankered. It's more about the music for me these days. Having said that, I know if I did go I would still have a great time. But it's all academic anyway as I can't get the time off work. :(

The Sziget festival is more my sort of thing. It's cheaper, longer, more diverse punters, no need to camp and a music policy more to my taste. Plus it comes right in the middle of the school holidays so no hassle about taking time from work. It's replaced Glasto as my big yearly festival. I highly recommend it.
 
Sziget does sound excellent and I would in no way criticise your preference for it, in fact I want to try it some year.

But I do want to pick up your feeling too old for Glastonbury thing -- surely nonsense, there are many many people notably older than you ;) who continue to go and don't have that reaction. I suspect your mattress isn't thick/comfortable enough or properly inflated! :p

Saying that, I would LOVE to acquire a camper van/hippy vehicle/live in truck at some stage before too long in my life.

Next year for me it's back with the tent again though ... and getting wankered is part of the whole experience, not necessarily as dominant for me all day very day at Glasto as it used to be, but moderation in moderation is what I say ... some of the time anyway! :D
 
I mean to say I feel old 'cause all the hassle involved in getting tickets, transport, camping, etc. just seems like so much effort. Not that the festive is just for young folks.

Maybe I should have used "lazy" instead of "old". :D
 
William of Walworth said:
because you don't like some strawman Aunt Sally of 'hypocrisy' is in my view unnecessarily and destructively cynical ...
Not a straw man. You do get people like that. And yes I am very cynical. But thats another story. Talk of Glastonbury angels and ley lines turns up in the program, yet from 2007 a large chunk of there money will go to a company owned by a media group that has huge clout in the US and uses it to persue an agenda that is very anti gay and pro imperialism.
 
david dissadent said:
Not a straw man. You do get people like that. And yes I am very cynical. But thats another story. Talk of Glastonbury angels and ley lines turns up in the program, yet from 2007 a large chunk of there money will go to a company owned by a media group that has huge clout in the US and uses it to persue an agenda that is very anti gay and pro imperialism.


I've definitely no fan of Clear Channel Entertainment :mad: , but I need to get more up to date on the details.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on the prominence of mysticism wibblers, I've encountered a very limited number over my last 11 Glastonburies .... despite hanging out in the Green Fields an awful lot!
 
William of Walworth said:
Workers Beer Company
Don't. even. get. me. started. :mad:

On a side note, I should be along again this year with the 'Workers' Beer Company. Hope I can manage to find you all this time.

I promise not to talk politics ;)
 
felixthecat said:
After his first Glasto last year, young Master Felixthekitten is having worries about his GCSE's - will the exam times fall in such a way he can go to Glasto or not?

Oh the traumas of being 16.

Got to page 8 and haven't seen any response other then on the same page. The very vast majority of GCSE's are finished by mid-June. Some exam boards have one of the history/Re/Humanities GCSE's late IIRC, so a potential clash there but otherwise it's AS/A levels that collide. Even if exams do collide, where there's a will etc. 2005 we had to arrive Thur night and leave Sun 5pm to get blueslet back for A levels, but I guess it depends on travel vs time there.

wiskey said:
Full First Post article

what a strange little man

August? What festival was he at, cos if he was at Pilton in Aug, no wonder he thought it was a shite festy :D
 
William of Walworth said:
I've definitely no fan of Clear Channel Entertainment :mad: , but I need to get more up to date on the details.
[\quote] they have bought mean fiddler.
William of Walworth said:
We're going to have to agree to disagree on the prominence of mysticism wibblers
They exist. I seem to find at least one a year. Ho hum. Argue the toss over a pint of brothers pear cider some day.
 
I'm aware CCE have bought Mean Fiddler :mad: , but what I really want to find out are more exact details of any new contract. All Glastonbury contracts, sponsorship deals, etc. were up for renegotiation/renewal/possible change in advance of 2007. I haven't been keeping up with Glasto news too well recently though, so ATM I have no idea whether the MF contract has been re-signed or on what terms.
 
LD Rudeboy said:
I mean to say I feel old 'cause all the hassle involved in getting tickets, transport, camping, etc. just seems like so much effort. Not that the festive is just for young folks.

I feel like that too - have done the last couple of years or so. Even with the hassle & costs etc, it's still better than sitting around that week knowing everyone else is there and I'm not. It will be loads more hassle next time around as everyone I usually take has moved, so no dogsitter, and major organisation needed to collect everyone up along the way. Just need to make sure I don't work more than play to make up for it. :)
 
I really want to go to Glasto next year.

Really really really.

I haven't been since 1999 (the last one, I think, before they put that new big fence up)...and am interested to see what it's gonna be like when it's not overcrowded by about 500%!
 
han said:
I haven't been since 1999 (the last one, I think, before they put that new big fence up)...and am interested to see what it's gonna be like when it's not overcrowded by about 500%!

No, the last year with a breachable fence was 2000. The crowds in 2000 exceeded the officially licenced capacity by well over 100% -- Licence was for 100,000 ; estimated onsite population varies, but anything between 220,000 and 260,000.

With still more outside the official site, partying insanely at the Travellers multirig field ... :p
The like of which I doubt we'll ever seen again until a nationwide collapse of law'n'order!!!!! :eek: :cool:

Oh yes, see you next year han!! :cool:
 
acid priest said:
I desperately want to go to this, but alien nation in't keen. :(

Do you reckon we could convince her, mon comrades? ;)

If she's never been, she'll go to the end of her life regretting it .... ;)

I know **I** will regret for ever missing the ultra wild years between 1986 and 1993. The only one in that period I don't regret missing in that era was Original Mudbath 1985 - the one whose stories put me off going again (after 1984) for a decade ... :(

But I've been every year it's been on since 1994, and 2007 will be my 12th overall :cool:

Aliennation will be shocked and surprised and overwhelmed and flabbergasted.

Persuade her to get there in 2007, and she'll never want to miss it again. FACT.
 
William of Walworth said:
Aliennation will be shocked and surprised and overwhelmed and flabbergasted.

Persuade her to get there in 2007, and she'll never want to miss it again. FACT.
That's sorted then - we have work to do! :) :cool:
 
William of Walworth said:
No, the last year with a breachable fence was 2000. The crowds in 2000 exceeded the officially licenced capacity by well over 100% -- Licence was for 100,000 ; estimated onsite population varies, but anything between 220,000 and 260,000.

With still more outside the official site, partying insanely at the Travellers multirig field ... :p
The like of which I doubt we'll ever seen again until a nationwide collapse of law'n'order!!!!! :eek: :cool:

Oh yes, see you next year han!! :cool:

Ah yes, 2000 it was. Twas a good year,that one. Utterly insane. :D

Will be nice to be there when it's a bit less packed though, even if the anarchic atmosphere is there no longer....
 
acid priest said:
That's sorted then - we have work to do! :) :cool:

:) And there's also the v positive aspect of a guaranteed huge urban turnout every year by the cider bus....

Have you got access to a van? Going in the van field makes it mildly less scummy...:D
 
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