GE 2017: Urban Opinion Poll No.1
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mx wcfc
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well, I get your point, but it would be fucking hilarious if it backfired on May. Let's just say Labour don't lose any seats, by campaigning on public services, and enough remoaners vote Lib in Tory v. Lib seats over Brexit. Oh the joy.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Remoaners? What a shit pun.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Oh, I see. I understand now. Best just hold your nose and vote Labour I fear.
Idaho
blah blah blah
What's the point?
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
Yep, I agree. I only used the term because it has become common and people know what it means, though it is pejorative.
I'm one of those people who voted remain, but, given the result, thinks we should just get on and make the most of it.
coley
Well-Known Member
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I can't remember. Think it's crap though. Being unhappy with a political situation being reduced to 'moaning'. Sounds a bit antidemocratic to me. Put up or shut up. Nah.Your not trying to say this is the first time you've heard the term?
TheHoodedClaw
acknowledging ur soup leg
Labour, although this is an SNP hold most likely. Our new MP, after an initial flurry of local activity, seems to have lost interest in her constituency.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
It's a bit more complicated than that with Brexit though. People who voted one way are not necessarily political polar opposites of the people who voted the other way.
Idaho
blah blah blah
On that issue they are.
mx wcfc
Well-Known Member
My use of the word remoaners was lazy. I apologise. I voted remain, and I remain convinced that we should have stayed in. But we voted out and now I think we should just get on with getting out as well as possible.
I used "remoaner" as short hand for people who want to overturn the referendum decision, and that was poor posting, even if I am pissed. That's all. Sorry.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Not really. People are generally confused on the issue and many will share a lot of common ground politically.
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Because anything other than an increased majority in labour safe seats will be spun as condemnation of labour's move away from blairite neoliberalism. If you want the return to trad labour policies to have any hope of continuing after June, you have to support them at the ballot box now.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
Kippers. Looking at the Kipper forums, many are going to vote Tory, and those Kippers who spent many hours leafletting and door knocking are calling them all traitors. The best outcome here is they are split 50/50. Either way UKIP are done and dusted.
I guess so. Are there many, maybe there are many who went from labour to UKIP now Tory. I think it will be a narrow Tory win.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
4 tories and 0 libdems. When it's more embarrassing to own up to voting yellow...
New Labour voters.
Ironically given that this Labour party is the one I've ever felt best about I'm considering treating myself to a spoiled ballot on the basis of "Theresa May, what was it about your 21 point poll lead that first attracted you to calling a general election?"
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Labour. Less worse is better than worst
Having spent 9 months trying to keep social housing tenants with a roof over their head from mostly Labour councils invested in schemes to sell of their homes to the highest bidders, backed with PFI, with little intention to re-house them again, and councillors actively funnelling contracts to their mates with property development companies, I just don't believe in voting for 'the least worst' anymore. I understand and sympathise with it in a shit system where all parties are just vying for the pursuit of neoliberalism with slight differences in how that's administered, but it just validates their existence and continues in fucking over the working class.
I genuinely have some sympathy for what Corbyn, McDonnell and a handful of other PLP have tried to do, but the reality is, come annihilation or pulling off the great escape, most of the Labour Party are moderates/right and will simply resist any long-term shift to the left.
So, once again, it'll be amusing doodle on my postal vote. Tbf, I'm in a strong Tory area and that's highly unlikely to change now.
And as the only election I have voted firmly in for years, voting the EU ref has bought such scorn from people here including those I had a lot of time for, and despite having entirely well thought out and considered left leave arguments entirely consistent with socialist left principals and indeed even Corbyn (whilst acknowledging the unhelpful circumstances that exist), I don't know if I can ever call many supposed 'lefties' comrades again. I just don't a lot of Labour supporters are on my side anymore as someone who wants radical social and economic change.
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
I've put an unenthusiastic vote for SNP but leaning towards spunking cock
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I'd normally abstain. And I may well do this time. But I'm feeling an urge to vote SNP for the bants. I want indyref2 to get the go ahead, and I'm hoping the SNP words their manifesto in such a way as to make the vote here about giving the referendum a public mandate. If they do, I'll give them a vote. So long as they behave in other ways.
(I'd like a few of their last intake to be deselected: especially McGarry and Thomson. I've a feeling the latter won't be).
(I'd like a few of their last intake to be deselected: especially McGarry and Thomson. I've a feeling the latter won't be).
