Food Shortages

[Elpenor]

Just the one substitution on today’s order (Devon). Anecdote doesn’t equal data but fewer than previous orders. I still struggle to add enough to hit the £40 delivery amount.
Anyway, starting to build up my stocks of tins as I have some freestanding shelves in my kitchen to fill (once I’ve collected a bracket from my dad’s house next week to stop them falling over)

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- Sainsbury's Black Beans Carton, SO Organic 380g (230g*)​	1 (​

 

[weepiper]

Edinburgh Lidl shoppers spot empty shelves as supplies of essentials disappear

A selection of stores around Edinburgh have been seen facing supply issues in recent days, with a number of popular retailers affected around the capital and the Lothians.

www.edinburghlive.co.uk

 

[ddraig]

Apparently CO2 shortage too, less chickens if that's what you eat

CO2: Food and drink fears for Wales over carbon dioxide cuts

One of Britain's biggest poultry processors says there needs to be urgent action within days.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[bimble]

The man interviewed there in weepiper ’s link, ‘chairman of food and drink federation’, saying he thinks to some extent this will be permanent, is there an obvious reason why he must be wrong? Idk.

 

[Badgers]

Major shortage of Warburtons products around here lately. But bakery products in particular seem to be less.

Warburton's can fuck the fuck off.

#ToryScum donors

 

[AverageJoe]

My local has run out of all draft beer and lager. It has one barrel of Guiness left.

They cant get the deliveries.

 

[Badgers]

The man interviewed there in weepiper ’s link, ‘chairman of food and drink federation’, saying he thinks to some extent this will be permanent, is there an obvious reason why he must be wrong? Idk.

Ask Jacob Pees Dogg

 

[Badgers]

Was just potatoes, radishes and carrots in my local Tesco.

#Projectfear #blamecorbyn

 

[Badgers]

It is just Covid-19 teething problems...

#BrexitFoodShortages

All of the EU countries are. SuFFerInG as bad as our sovereign state.

 

[danny la rouge]

Despite some people/posters mocking the empty shelf photos etc. #Projectfear there are really noticeable shortages.

I don’t give a fuck about the Brexit tribes. I don’t identify as a Leaver or Remainer. Both campaigns were cunts. I very nearly didn’t vote. I only decided on the day to vote against the Nazi-inspired floods of immigrants poster. (Not for the patronising neoliberal Remain campaign). So the tribes narrative can go and fuck itself.

But whatever way people voted or didn’t vote, the deal the government struck is without a doubt a major contributor to the current shortages on the shelves. And they do exist, and they are predicted to get worse.

Yesterday’s story was meat supplies being around 10 days from collapse. Today’s story was CO2 shortages could hit meat and now vegetable supplies.

Anyone saying this is just a figment of Remoaners’ imaginations can try to keep themselves warm with that insight this winter when people are choosing between eating and heating, and the choice of food on offer is vastly diminished anyway.

 

[elbows]

I heard one chap ( cuntery) say that this is capitalism working properly as it marking people limit what they eat based on what is available. See also energy issues. It’s actually greener because of capital working it’s magic in the markets

Do you think he might change his tune if that principal was carried on to a Rousseau-like conclusion?

When the people shall have no more to eat, they will eat the rich!

 

[WouldBe]

My traps have killed loads of the little buggers this year, I have been just sticking the corpses in the wheelie, perhaps I should start bunging them in the freezer from now on (assuming I still have a leccy supply)

If there's a shortage of sausages you could wrap the mice in bacon instead. MIB's.

 

[dessiato]

It is just Covid-19 teething problems...

#BrexitFoodShortages

All of the EU countries are. SuFFerInG as bad as our sovereign state.

There's no shortages here.

 

[crossthebreeze]

Not due to the food shortage, just general poverty two highly used and needed local food banks closed in the last month due to a massive drop in donations.
I fear it’s going to get really grim very quickly this winter.

There's several things happening with food banks and similar projects at the moment:

During the pandemic, the Fareshare food redistributer network initially provided small projects with free food (and also would deliver only ambient food if that was what a group wanted) , then they started charging a fee. Recently, in our area at least, they have stopped providing ambient food to organisations that can't also take refrigerated and frozen food.

Retailers and restaurants are having supply issues, so have less surplus to donate, and are less willing to make charitable donations.

More people going back into workplace after furlough/unemployment/wfh, and jobseeking requirements going back to normal, plus more leisure activities opening up and socialising going on, so fewer volunteers.

People feeling the pinch of rising prices, increasing poverty, and worry about supply issues, so fewer donations coming in from individuals.

Its certainly affecting our mutual aid group and other projects I know about.

 

[andysays]

I don’t give a fuck about the Brexit tribes. I don’t identify as a Leaver or Remainer. Both campaigns were cunts. I very nearly didn’t vote. I only decided on the day to vote against the Nazi-inspired floods of immigrants poster. (Not for the patronising neoliberal Remain campaign). So the tribes narrative can go and fuck itself.

But whatever way people voted or didn’t vote, the deal the government struck is without a doubt a major contributor to the current shortages on the shelves. And they do exist, and they are predicted to get worse.

Yesterday’s story was meat supplies being around 10 days from collapse. Today’s story was CO2 shortages could hit meat and now vegetable supplies.

Anyone saying this is just a figment of Remoaners’ imaginations can try to keep themselves warm with that insight this winter when people are choosing between eating and heating, and the choice of food on offer is vastly diminished anyway.

I don't think anyone is really saying the whole thing is simply a figment of anyone's imagination, though some have been trying to suggest that people are saying that.

There clearly are shortages in some things and in some areas, they have been getting worse and are likely to get even worse.

It's the reasons for the shortages which are contested.

 

[elbows]

It's the reasons for the shortages which are contested.

Indeed, and there have been a number of valid reasons combining in many cases.

We have not been treated to seeing the effects of Brexit in isolation. The effects have been combined with pandemic effects, and in the case of CO2 shortages, the situation with gas supply and price.

I find it futile to try to argue that one thing is responsible in isolation. But this is no comfort, especially since some of the greatest disasters tend to be down to a combination of errors and sorry circumstances.

I've actually been surrpised at how well 'just in time' systems have coped during the pandemic so far. But Im not complacent about it, there are strong hints evident in regards how much potential doom cascading failures and combinations of difficult circumstances can bring.

 

[Winot]

This seems pretty good reporting:

The empty shelves crisis isn’t just down to Covid and Brexit – it's been decades in the making | Felicity Lawrence

Ever-worsening conditions in supply-chain jobs have made Britain’s shortages inevitable, and a pay rise for lorry drivers won’t end them, says the Guardian’s special correspondent Felicity Lawrence

www.theguardian.com

 

[A380]

But in the other hand Prince Phillip had a great sense of humour and used to squirt mustard.

A hilarious jape for anyone who’s never had to clean anything himself…

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

So we have a number of factors coming together meaning likely food shortages over an expected harsh winter, with an added energy crisis. (Energy thread here).

I thought there should be a dedicated food shortage/distribution thread instead of it spread across different ones.

Post your updates and rants here.

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[Badgers]

There's no shortages here.

Shocked I tell thee

 

[Badgers]

I don't think anyone is really saying the whole thing is simply a figment of anyone's imagination, though some have been trying to suggest that people are saying that.

There clearly are shortages in some things and in some areas, they have been getting worse and are likely to get even worse.

It's the reasons for the shortages which are contested.

Brexit voter diverting facts you say?

 

[bimble]

I don't think anyone is really saying the whole thing is simply a figment of anyone's imagination, though some have been trying to suggest that people are saying that.

There clearly are shortages in some things and in some areas, they have been getting worse and are likely to get even worse.

It's the reasons for the shortages which are contested.

They may not be saying it now but they most certainly were a little while ago.
eg

You’ll likely find that the delivery lorries had a flat tyre that day and if you went back the following day the shelves and freezers would be full again. Either that or Brexit is causing micro-climates of food shortages specifically in areas of remoaner density, because all of the shops and supermarkets around here are stocked just fine.

 

[andysays]

They may not be saying it now but they most certainly were a little while ago.
eg

Fair point, I should have said "no one is seriously saying..."

No one really takes Spymaster seriously, do they?

 

[Humberto]

You get the sense that Johnson believes he is in his rightful place. That the rich, being rich, are therefore the rightful rulers. The money (public money) is always there to help themselves, no expense spared. To keep people from already overwhelmed food banks, not so much. Greed and selfishness is all it is. It is self-evidently wrong to push people who are struggling into greater hardship and precariousness (as e.g. the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, The Trussel Trust and no doubt others are telling the govt). At times like this it's just reckless. It's stupid to trust this government that it will 'all be fine'. See e.g.:

Guarantee our essentials - The Trussell Trust

We’re calling on the UK Government to make sure the basic rate of Universal Credit at least covers life’s essentials.

www.trusselltrust.org

If they aren't concerned and are confident given these predictions then they are nothing but fools. They can bluster all they like. It counts for nothing.

 

[platinumsage]

hadnt seen this thread - so reposting here

I wanted to go to the coop but they haven't been getting much deliveries lately so went to they bigger Waitrose instead... The fruit and veg section :

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That's the worst I've seen yet

The co-op are just shit, especially at fresh produce because most of their stores are so small, so deliveries have to be perfect or they start running out.

Plenty of pasta in our local co-op though, I guess people aren’t sure of the best way to cook it….

 

[ska invita]

The co-op are just shit, especially at fresh produce because most of their stores are so small, so deliveries have to be perfect or they start running out.

Plenty of pasta in our local co-op though, I guess people aren’t sure of the best way to cook it….

Its their ready meals and the like that have been missing for the last few weeks at my local shop

 

[Sasaferrato]

Meant to add, yes items are often rationed by number too.

Thanks to your 'heads up' we put in an extra juice order from Iceland, no Irn Bru extra, Sugar Free substituted. No Pepsi Max, no 7Up, no Coke Zero no Tango.

 

[Badgers]

Cometh the hour...

The prime minister told BBC News: "I don't believe people will be short of food - and wages are actually rising."

 

[danny la rouge]

Cometh the hour...

…he really will be dead in a ditch?

 

[bimble]

What do you think is this man right that to some extent this is going to be permanent?
I’m curious, seems like a pretty grim view he’s got but he knows how the industry is and not sure why he’d lie.

Customers face permanent food shortages fuelled by lack of lorry drivers, warns industry leader

The farm to fork supply chain is missing around half a million of the four million people that usually work in the sector, caused in part by EU nationals leaving the UK as a result of coronavirus and Brexit, an event hears.

news.sky.com