QueenOfGoths
Fuck you Dave!
Blimey!
England Cricket 2021
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Oof. Put the radio on at about 12:30 expecting another stodgy day of watching that lead ebb away and wondering if England could somehow fail to chase 100 in the fourth innings. Five minutes later the match is over.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Jos Buttler: Catches all of India's top order out in one session.
Some cunt on the internet: Time for Buttler to go.
RileyOBlimey
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Jos Buttler: Catches all of India's top order out in one session.
Some cunt on the internet: Time for Buttler to go.
Is he the best keeper in England? Nope,
Is he scoring runs to justify his place in the test side? No.
Is he a malcontent? Yes.
Watching Buttler bat in test cricket is depressing. He most often looks distraught and like he does not want to be there.
Is he still worth his place in the side? I'd drop him, he seems to spend a whole lot of time in the stands anyway when they're fielding and currently Bumrah seems a better batsman. Williamson still the best bat in the world, followed bu Smith. Wtf has happened to Kohli?
RileyOBlimey
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That may be logical but how far would you push to make other variables the same for consistency? Compare the pitches India prepared to the green seamers in the UK and NZ. Would we want to narrow the variety of surfaces that are legal?
As far as changes to balls, challenging the manufacturers to create pink balls with very similar characteristics as red balls would be desirable. Then the light will never stop a test match again.
Then using the same ball for tests and limited overs is possible. This would ease player transition from one format to another.
Tailoring pitches to local conditions is a relatively recent development as far as I remember. The pitches India produced for the last England series were absurd.
As far as the balls are concerned, pink balls lead to short matches. So, no. Let's just go with either the Dukes or Kookaburra everywhere, or find a happy medium (not a pink one). This of course would fuck Jimmy's average as he can't take wickets anywhere but England, but still.
RileyOBlimey
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Remember correlation does not mean causation; just because some limited stats show a pattern does not mean the ball is to blame.
As for Anderson, his record abroad has improved in recent years.
As for Anderson, his record abroad has improved in recent years.
RileyOBlimey
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Buttler is out of the squad, hopefully for good…for everyone’s sake.
England squad: Joe Root (Yorkshire), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), James Anderson (Lancashire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Rory Burns (Surrey), Sam Curran (Surrey), Haseeb Hameed (Nottinghamshire), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Craig Overton (Somerset), Ollie Pope (Surrey), Ollie Robinson (Sussex), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).
England squad: Joe Root (Yorkshire), Moeen Ali (Worcestershire), James Anderson (Lancashire), Jonathan Bairstow (Yorkshire), Sam Billings (Kent), Rory Burns (Surrey), Sam Curran (Surrey), Haseeb Hameed (Nottinghamshire), Dan Lawrence (Essex), Dawid Malan (Yorkshire), Craig Overton (Somerset), Ollie Pope (Surrey), Ollie Robinson (Sussex), Chris Woakes (Warwickshire), Mark Wood (Durham).
RileyOBlimey
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The Ashes team is coming together…
Burns
Hameed
Malan
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Moeen
Woakes
Robinson
Wood
Anderson
Burns
Hameed
Malan
Root
Stokes
Bairstow
Moeen
Woakes
Robinson
Wood
Anderson
RileyOBlimey
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He’ll be in the squad if fit for sure. However, will Robinson nab his spot in the most desirable team? Broad may not offer the wicket taking consistency of this new fangled Robinson chap.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Robinson isn't new fangled to me (Sussex fan). He's been doing it for us for years after Yorkshire dumped him. Including a maiden century on debut. He can bat higher than 9, would make more runs.
Buttler is only out because his wife is expecting a baby. I'd be very surprised if he's not back for the 5th test. Doesn't look good if it seems you're dropping your players for daring to go to the birth of their child. Plus Buttler notoriously scores loads in the final test of a series - it's how he keeps keeping his place.
For now I'd give his place to Lawrence. They won't. They'll give it to Surrey boy Pope (one century in 19 tests, last 50 was 16 innings ago). Bairstow will keep, they seem to not trust Billings.
Buttler is only out because his wife is expecting a baby. I'd be very surprised if he's not back for the 5th test. Doesn't look good if it seems you're dropping your players for daring to go to the birth of their child. Plus Buttler notoriously scores loads in the final test of a series - it's how he keeps keeping his place.
For now I'd give his place to Lawrence. They won't. They'll give it to Surrey boy Pope (one century in 19 tests, last 50 was 16 innings ago). Bairstow will keep, they seem to not trust Billings.
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Unfortunately I'd make a case for this series now rests on Rory Burns. I still think he's shit. But he is a flat track bully, particularly an Oval flat track bully.
His test performances suggest he'll get about another 120 runs in this series. But if arises above this, likes he's meant to on his Oval home pitch, that could make all the difference. Another opening partnership. Someone else scoring a century who isn't Root.
Fail, and I can't see Root scoring forever. So England would fail. You don't win at the Oval by scoring 200.
Over to you Rory. The conditions are in your favour. Justify yourself.
His test performances suggest he'll get about another 120 runs in this series. But if arises above this, likes he's meant to on his Oval home pitch, that could make all the difference. Another opening partnership. Someone else scoring a century who isn't Root.
Fail, and I can't see Root scoring forever. So England would fail. You don't win at the Oval by scoring 200.
Over to you Rory. The conditions are in your favour. Justify yourself.
RileyOBlimey
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I wouldn’t drop Buttler because he’s having a kid, I’d drop him because he’s a malcontent and not a test batter. For weeks on end he’s been making a fuss about not going to the Ashes if his partner has to go through quarantine. If the opportunity of beating Australia in Australia doesn’t motivate a player then that player should not play test cricket.
I’m sick to death of seeing his scared school boy face when batting in the longest form of the game.
Ed Smith’s project has failed.
I’m sick to death of seeing his scared school boy face when batting in the longest form of the game.
Ed Smith’s project has failed.
RileyOBlimey
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The Sun pays damages for being utterly vile to Ben Stokes…
Ben Stokes: The Sun newspaper pays damages to England cricketer over front-page family tragedy story
The Sun newspaper pays damages to England cricketer Ben Stokes and his mother Deborah after the tabloid published a story that included details of a family tragedy.
www.bbc.co.uk
Stokes' career is a fucking soap opera. I mean that in the best possible way. Has there ever been a more eventful one?
Possibly the greatest all round cricketer I've ever seen. Lara still the greatest I've seen in actual real life with the bat. But Stokes. Box office. I hope he returns.
Possibly the greatest all round cricketer I've ever seen. Lara still the greatest I've seen in actual real life with the bat. But Stokes. Box office. I hope he returns.
RileyOBlimey
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Burns has been given the vice captaincy in the absence of Stokes, Buttler and Broad. A bit of a slight to Anderson,
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Jimmy would just bowl himself from both ends all day long.
Jesus. H. Christ.
Fast bowlers can't be captains anyway, they're too fragile physically, that's the reason. But surely there's a better choice than Burns. I mean he's a half decent fielder but that's about all. I think he captains his county but it's a tad different at international level.
In any business, a 'succession strategy' is key to 'stakeholders' and 'shareholder's. That's the kind of language these idiots at the ECB understand so I'm surprised they've not foreseen this. Every other international side I can think of, none of whom have the riches of England have such a strategy. Gross incompetence.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
There's a lot more injury risk to a bowler and the aim is for having a long term captain who is there all the time. This is a major reason batsmen get picked over bowlers (though there have been some great bowling captains - Kapil Dev, Imran Khan, Waqar Younis, Shaun Pollock etc).
Anderson doesn't want the VC anyway going on everything he's said in the past; which amounts to 'would have been nice to be offered but I'd probably turn it down'.
Burns is just a stop gap. He's lucky to have a place in the side, let alone be junior boss.
RileyOBlimey
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You say that like it’s a bad thing.
paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
Why do say he's a malcontent? There are reportedly 10 players who have said they're not sure they want to play the Ashes? What about the other 9?
Bairstow, Hameed, Moeen, Anderson, Burns, Robinson, Malan and Buttler are those we know from the team last week who have all had issues recently. Those are the known ones so there will undoubtedly be others. Why not call them malcontents?
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paulhackett
voiced by strother martin
In fairness, there is talk of India dropping Rahane. Australia have Cummins as their last remaining official vice captain? And they don't know what to do when Paine stops. Smith? Cummins? Wade?
Burns as a championship-winning captain seems a sound choice from the squad/team. His place seems nailed on at the moment.
