Elon Musk - news and discussion

[brogdale]

Tbh I'm not sure how anti EU as such actually comes into play....the EU is obviously a massive trading bloc which could be more useful as a whole. The anti EU stance could just be populist bolstering, shaping politics and ideology...to then use money, diplomatic and digi influence to meddle with other countries preparing for elections. Surely, a EU with predominantly far right governments would be a lot easier to navigate and to find trade agreements and shape policies.
Dunno really, just thinking out aloud....

I think it's the tech-bro's aversion to regulation that drives the anti-supra state position

 

[two sheds]

Much as the government is now fucking up, there are a lot more US friendly tory MPs than labour ones. I could quite have seen them sucking up on multiple issues if they'd got in.

 

[klang]

I think it's the tech-bro's aversion to regulation that drives the anti-supra state position

I get that...to a point.
But de-regulating a bloc like the EU as a whole must surely be on their minds as well

 

[brogdale]

I get that...to a point.
But de-regulating a bloc like the EU as a whole must surely be on their minds as well

I think there is a generalised antipathy towards the single, regulated market amongst the US tech/right-wing; seems to be a knee-jerk support for any RW outfits posturing against the supra-state.

 

[editor]

And the memes continue....

 

[Serene]

Has Musk commented on the nazi salute? I am sure he is aware of the whole world talking about this, and it is very odd if he hasnt commented yet.

 

[two sheds]

Apparently it's only Hamas supporters who are complaining.

 

[teqniq]

Has Musk commented on the nazi salute? I am sure he is aware of the whole world talking about this, and it is very odd if he hasnt commented yet.

there's a screenshot of a tweet upthread

 

[Serene]

Apparently it's only Hamas supporters who are complaining.

Who has said that?

 

[brogdale]

Has Musk commented on the nazi salute? I am sure he is aware of the whole world talking about this, and it is very odd if he hasnt commented yet.

Not explicitly, but saying this to the new Nazis this afternoon gives us a clue about what he thinks...

Referencing Germany’s Nazi past, he declared that there is ‘too much of a focus on past guilt and we should move beyond that.’

 

[Serene]

Not explicitly, but saying this to the new Nazis this afternoon gives us a clue about what he thinks...

Referencing Germany’s Nazi past, he declared that there is ‘too much of a focus on past guilt and we should move beyond that.’

( sorry about the bold ). If he said that, it is a slightly ambiguous way of saying he intends to use nazi ideology. He typically says things that can be ambiguous.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Has Musk commented on the nazi salute? I am sure he is aware of the whole world talking about this, and it is very odd if he hasnt commented yet.

Only to say something along the lines of, 'look at these pathetic wokes, calling everyone a nazi all the time'.

Which is basically just, 'haha I can act like a nazi in public now and you lot just have to live with it'.

I don't even think he's a nazi. He's not really anything, just a toddler with a chainsaw. All there is left to hope for is that he chops his own head off with it and not anyone else's.

 

[brogdale]

Referencing Germany’s Nazi past, he declared that there is ‘too much of a focus on past guilt and we should move beyond that.’

( sorry about the bold ). If he said that, it is a slightly ambiguous way of saying he intends to use nazi ideology. He typically says things that can be ambiguous.

I suspect he said that a) to schmooze his new fash-adjacent German pals and b) get everyone talking about him again; seems to have worked

 

[Serene]

I don't even think he's a nazi.

I have the opinion from his words and actions, and the people he keeps company with that he is a nazi.

 

[two sheds]

https://i.redd.it/yr0x1zh8o5fe1.gif

www.reddit.com

 

[Serene]

My comp wont let me click on that link.

 

[two sheds]

Who has said that?

He did

On Wednesday, Musk posted, “The radical leftists are really upset that they had to take time out of their busy day praising Hamas to call me a Nazi.” And on Thursday, he thanked Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who had posted that Musk was “falsely smeared” and is a “friend of Israel.”

Elon Musk Comments on Salute Controversy

The billionaire sparked heated debate over a gesture he made at a rally celebrating Trump’s Inauguration.

time.com

 

[two sheds]

My comp wont let me click on that link.

sorry - I can't seem to download gifs, this any better?

https://i.redd.it/yr0x1zh8o5fe1.gif

www.reddit.com

 

[Serene]

“falsely smeared” and is a “friend of Israel.” This is all very strange. Maybe his brand of fascism is Israel friendly.

 

[Serene]

My comp has blocked that link also.

 

[Rob Ray]

A broad spectrum of fascists and their fellow-travellers are pro-Israel. Moving all the Jews to the Middle East and using them as the tip of the spear against the Muslims is not exactly harmful to their goals. Plus there's a huge crossover with evangelical Christian dogma, which sees the Jews returning to Israel and going to war as heralding the second coming.

 

[Ax^]

sorry - I can't seem to download gifs, this any better?

hth

 

[two sheds]

ooo how you do that?

 

[tommers]

I think there is a generalised antipathy towards the single, regulated market amongst the US tech/right-wing; seems to be a knee-jerk support for any RW outfits posturing against the supra-state.

The EU are a lot more rigid than the US in terms of privacy, data security etc etc. Lots of European companies won't keep their data in US datacentres, especially in Germany.

 

[two sheds]

oops sorry should have gone on Starmer or Trump thread

Hatred for Starmer as a hard-left socialist . If he were to be replaced it would mean someone even further to the right though.

Trump team wants ‘regime change’ in UK as Starmer replaces Trudeau as hate figure

News analysis: The Independent’s political editor David Maddox’s trip to Washington DC for Trump’s inauguration found that the UK/US special relationship has morphed into deep antipathy for the Starmer government from the new White House administration

www.independent.co.uk

The one thing that struck anybody having conversations with anyone involved in the Trump team, from lowly researchers to senior advisers, was the unanimity of hatred about Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour government. There was no pretence, no attempt to hide it.

It is worth underlining that this goes well beyond a series of angry tweets from Elon Musk and is much more deep-rooted.

It may be that the decision by the bete noire Justin Trudeau to step down as prime minister of Canada has left a space for an international “socialist” hate figure which Keir Starmer has now filled.

Communist, Marxist, authoritarian, idiots, CCP (Chinese Community Party) puppets and other terms were trotted out with regular abandon. There was contempt for Starmer’s policies and worldview but most interestingly, there was a sense of pity for all the Britons they ran into.

“I’m so sorry for what’s happened to your country,” said one.

 

[Ax^]

ooo how you do that?

it still an image so you can hotlink to it

 

[klang]

ooo how you do that?

tech, bro

 

[SpookyFrank]

Watch Starmer suck up to Trump anyway, like the craven pile of dogshit he is.

 

[Ax^]

Watch Starmer suck up to Trump anyway, like the craven pile of dogshit he is.

don't know why he even bothering Boris literally sucked his right nut for 4 years and got nothing

trump not going to give keith a deal either

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Watch Starmer suck up to Trump anyway, like the craven pile of dogshit he is.

They're already doing it. Spotted a front-page headline in the shop of Reeves saying Britain could do with some Trumpian optimism. Can't bring myself to search for it online.