Donald Trump the road that might not lead to the White House - Redux 2024 thread.

[Everything Goes]

None because she was not born in the United States

Given Trump just tears up laws whenever it suits him he could just change it. Maybe Sergey Lavrov could get a transfer to become vice president.

 

[Karl Masks]

Judge who dismissed Trump criminal case is ‘future supreme court justice’, Gaetz says

Far-right Florida congressman is asked by critic: ‘Are you admitting to a quid pro quo?'’

www.theguardian.com

Democrats are just fucking amateurs in comparison aren't they

'adults in the room'

 

[Everything Goes]

Truss calls Biden weak and compares Trump to her hero Thatcher for getting up on stage within days of the incident.

Liz Truss hits out at 'weak' Joe Biden as she attends Republican convention in support of Donald Trump

The former British prime minister tells Sky News that Mr Trump has shown "strength and fortitude" after the attempt on his life, comparing him to Margaret Thatcher.

news.sky.com

 

[Lorca]

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I would respond to this idiocy but the Adhan just rang out and me and the missus are off burkha shopping in a bit.

 

[Johnny Vodka]

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This would be the same Labour government which is still allowing the slaughter of Muslims in Gaza with UK weapons.

Got to wonder if the likes of JD Vance believe their own bullshit.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

Truss calls Biden weak and compares Trump to her hero Thatcher for getting up on stage within days of the incident.

Liz Truss hits out at 'weak' Joe Biden as she attends Republican convention in support of Donald Trump

The former British prime minister tells Sky News that Mr Trump has shown "strength and fortitude" after the attempt on his life, comparing him to Margaret Thatcher.

news.sky.com

Unlike her who was out of office within days of the incident.

Fuck Thatcher
Fuck Poundland Thatcher (May)
Fuck Temu Thatcher (Truss)

 

[Johnny Vodka]

Truss calls Biden weak and compares Trump to her hero Thatcher for getting up on stage within days of the incident.

Liz Truss hits out at 'weak' Joe Biden as she attends Republican convention in support of Donald Trump

The former British prime minister tells Sky News that Mr Trump has shown "strength and fortitude" after the attempt on his life, comparing him to Margaret Thatcher.

news.sky.com

Has to find something to do, hasn't she?

Desperately trying to cling to relevancy, hoping to get some sort of gig in the U.S...

 

[marshall]

Yes, it could have been even worse. Vance is bright and ambitious and will say and do whatever it takes to get ahead. Changes his mind when the wind blows.
And he has the hillbilly backstory. The extracts I read a few years back - I think it was before he was elected - were well written.

Because I'm a bit obsessed with all things Appalachian, I read Hillbilly Elegy back in 2018 and it's quite a story, well-written too. I think Trump already had this in the bag, but appointing Vance feels like a smart move, I'm afraid.

 

[two sheds]

well that's us nuked then come november

 

[emanymton]

This would be the same Labour government which is still allowing the slaughter of Muslims in Gaza with UK weapons.

Got to wonder if the likes of JD Vance believe their own bullshit.

I don't know in this case. Buy I think one thing that has changed politically is that an increasing number do believe the bullshit they say is true.

 

[Wilf]

I doubt that very much. If it is true (according to reports) that Trump is going to tone down his rhetoric over the rest of the campaign starting with his RNC speech - which he can easily do whilst having his lunatic stooges do the crazy talk instead - then he can pretend to be the changed man who has realised this is his last term, so he is promoting a younger generation of leaders from outside politics etc etc. Vance's previous opposition is a strength in that respect, as is his age and lack of time served in Washington. Compared to Scott or Rubio (especially) he is a vastly better choice.

It will almost certainly work too, given that the Democrats will still be led by the idiots who refused to change after 2016, who refused to change after AOC and the Squad emerged, whose bright idea to stop Trump was to firstly rush his second impeachment trial and then to spin out court cases so they'd all land during this election cycle, and who will allow themselves to go into this campaign with a president that they publicly have no confidence in.

Aye, there is that. All of that.

 

[gosub]

well that's us nuked then come november

Nah be the same deal Pompeo gave the Tailban withdrawl without a shot fired leaving us all their kit

 

[moochedit]

well that's us nuked then come november

Yep between trump and putin we are pretty fucked

 

[maomao]

well that's us nuked then come november

In 2016 there were urbanites insisting that Trump would definitely start WW3, and being quite hysterical about it all, and yet here we all are.

 

[moochedit]

In 2016 there were urbanites insisting that Trump would definitely start WW3, and being quite hysterical about it all, and yet here we all are.

True but I think the danger is trump or putin misreading the other one.

 

[BoatieBird]

Because I'm a bit obsessed with all things Appalachian, I read Hillbilly Elegy back in 2018 and it's quite a story, well-written too. I think Trump already had this in the bag, but appointing Vance feels like a smart move, I'm afraid.

Hillbilly Elegy was recommended (maybe by someone on here?) ages ago and I added it to my wishlist, it was up for 99p a couple of weeks ago so I bought it and read the introduction yesterday morning.
I had no idea he was even in US politics so imagine my surprise when I saw the news

Now I'm thinking he's probably a bit of a tosser and I don't know if I want to read it

 

[moochedit]

Hillbilly Elegy was recommended (maybe by someone on here?) ages ago and I added it to my wishlist, it was up for 99p a couple of weeks ago so I bought it and read the introduction yesterday morning.
I had no idea he was even in US politics so imagine my surprise when I saw the news

Now I'm thinking he's probably a bit of a tosser and I don't know if I want to read it

I'd never heard of him before but see his comments about the UK being an "islamic" country with nukes. Yeah he's a RW tosser.

 

[two sheds]

Donald Trump does not get post-shooting poll boost

A new poll shows Donald Trump leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point ahead of November's election.

www.newsweek.com

 

[JimW]

Someone suggest he gives it another go, might work next time.

 

[moochedit]

Donald Trump does not get post-shooting poll boost

A new poll shows Donald Trump leading Joe Biden by just one percentage point ahead of November's election.

www.newsweek.com

If true that's "good" news. Does depend on what dates the polling was done though.

 

[cupid_stunt]

If true that's "good" news. Does depend on what dates the polling was done though.

It says it was conducted on Monday, but it is only one poll, time will tell.

 

[Nylock]

True but I think the danger is trump or putin misreading the other one.

The big danger is Trump misreading Putin, Putin invading a NATO member with Trump then turning around and saying 'fuck that' and letting them get on with it. Or Trump pulling the plug on NATO first and then it all kicking off. Either way, with Trump in charge things could get very iffy in our part of the world...

 

[two sheds]

It says it was conducted on Monday, but it is only one poll, time will tell.

Indeed - there's always hope that the great choruses of 'Jesus Came Down to Earth to Save our MAGAHead' will put off anyone who's got a functioning brain.

 

[8ball]

In 2016 there were urbanites insisting that Trump would definitely start WW3, and being quite hysterical about it all, and yet here we all are.

There were some quite crazy Tweets, though.

 

[bcuster]

Strategic error by Trump in selecting Vance as VP; perhaps fatal (?)

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/15/jd-vance-55-things-trump-vp-00167882?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

 

[two sheds]

Strategic error by Trump in selecting Vance as VP; perhaps fatal (?)

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/15/jd-vance-55-things-trump-vp-00167882?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us

is there anything new in there that would make it a strategic error? It all looks fairly bland.

 

[Cid]

The big danger is Trump misreading Putin, Putin invading a NATO member with Trump then turning around and saying 'fuck that' and letting them get on with it. Or Trump pulling the plug on NATO first and then it all kicking off. Either way, with Trump in charge things could get very iffy in our part of the world...

Putin-Trump is a bit 'who the fuck knows?'. Though yeah, I'd probably give more credence to that view than them slinging nukes about.

Trump also fucking hates China, and relations there are bad enough as it is. Though there are so many variables there it's just... impossible.

 

[chandlerp]

Ideal thing now would be for Trump to drop dead without time to find someone the MAGAs can rally behind. Because Vance ain't it.

 

[moochedit]

The big danger is Trump misreading Putin, Putin invading a NATO member with Trump then turning around and saying 'fuck that' and letting them get on with it. Or Trump pulling the plug on NATO first and then it all kicking off. Either way, with Trump in charge things could get very iffy in our part of the world...

Agreed. Or another scary one is putin misreading trump and invades a nato country thinking trump won't care but trump does retaliate but i suspect your version is more likely. Hopefully we are wrong

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

is there anything new in there that would make it a strategic error? It all looks fairly bland.

The idea that any die-hard maga types would walk away because of a slight disagreement over choice of VP is pure fantasy. These are people still worshipping Trump as some kind of deity after he's been found guilty of sexual assault and had a judge declare it materially true that he's an actual rapist.