Do you disapprove of people who are planning an overseas holiday this summer?

[kabbes]

People doing the right thing for the wrong reason are still doing the right thing

Right, it just means that the system of incentives got properly aligned (for once)

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I’ll gladly admit to disapproving of people going abroad right now. Unless it’s for genuinely essential reasons - and I have a feeling my definition of that will be somewhat stricter than most - they should be fucking ashamed of themselves.

 

[l'Otters]

I think people planning to go abroad are taking a few different gambles, with implications for others not just themselves.
1) they are gambling that they won't catch covid-19 while they are aboard
2) they are gambling that they will be able to get a clear test for them and their group when the time comes to return home.
3) they are gambling that they won't get a new variant which might defeat any vaccine they have taken
4) they are gambling that they won't unwittingly bring a new variant back to the UK with them
5) they may be gambling that their destination stays on the green or amber lists for the duration of their visit
6) and they may be gambling that they won't have to do a hotel quaranteen on their return with all the costs associated with that ..

For me, 3 & 4 are the key issues, because they involve others - other than the immediate vacationers.

They’re also gambling with the health of all the unvaccinated people who serve them during the course of their holiday.

 

[Winot]

We are booked to go abroad but on a junkable flight (can reuse till end April 2022). We won’t go unless the country is on the green list.

(#pollfail)

Have ditched NYC and booked accommodation in Glasgow.

 

[Supine]

Ibiza is not an island I would have chosen for covid safe holidays. Are the clubs open?

 

[krtek a houby]

Ibiza is not an island I would have chosen for covid safe holidays. Are the clubs open?

Try Formentera across the water. Much quieter.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Ibiza is not an island I would have chosen for covid safe holidays. Are the clubs open?

As soon as it went on the green list, I booked my flight. I don't know or care about the clubs. I stay in a quiet part of the island

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

How long was Portugal on the green list for? Every chance the Balearics will be amber again pretty soon, especially as our esteemed government has made it one of the very limited places you can go, cramming everyone in nice and tight...

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Balearics on the green watch list, along with Israel, which means they will most likely move to amber very soon.

Absolute shower of shit in government, just come out and say all travel is off rather than opening and closing places, fucking peoples' plans up at great cost, financially and mentally. Additions to the green list yesterday included Pitcairn Island, Diego Garcia and Antarctica, ffs. Taking the absolute piss.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Antarctica

Top tips to get glacier-body ready for the summer!

 

[2hats]

The virus greatly approves and sends thanks.

 

[Edie]

Balearics on the green watch list, along with Israel, which means they will most likely move to amber very soon.

Absolute shower of shit in government, just come out and say all travel is off rather than opening and closing places, fucking peoples' plans up at great cost, financially and mentally. Additions to the green list yesterday included Pitcairn Island, Diego Garcia and Antarctica, ffs. Taking the absolute piss.

I think they just wanted a laugh to be honest. I give no shits about who wants to take a chance going abroad. Good luck to you, hope you pull it off.

 

[campanula]

Nah, but I never go anywhere, anyway, apart from up the A11. Haven't been abroad since 1993, when I spent my student grant on a family jaunt to India for a coupla months. Not unduly bothered by other people's holidays (although I do fret about environmental concerns re. the tourist industry).

 

[pbsmooth]

seeing as holidays are meant to be about relaxing I think all this green/amber business sounds like far too much stress, not to mention places being shut, masks, social distancing. will try and spend some time away from London but within the UK (if you can book anywhere) but a trip abroad seems more hassle than it's worth for me.

 

[baldrick]

Anything that involves an ongoing worry of green/amber/red both before and during, masks, PCR tests that cost a fortune, vaccination certificates, flights that may or may not happen and possible quarantine is not conducive to a good time and therefore I will not be bothering.

 

[Teaboy]

If people want to take a foreign holiday that's up to them. I'm not doing it for the time being. Initially it was because I thought it was the wrong thing to do, now I just can't be arsed with hassle.

As it happens right now its seems pretty fucked in the UK anyway so the damage being done will be to the host country and that's up to them. I feel very sorry for anyone vulnerable who happens to live in places that have been green listed by the UK and have open borders because they're about to be knee deep in delta variant.

 

[2hats]

the damage being done will be to the host country and that's up to them

In the [very] short-term. But not only them in the mid-term (and possibly not in the long-term either).

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I think the right thing for us all to do is to stay put this summer unless we absolutely have to travel. But I'm not going to have a go at people who want to go abroad. I have friends who are desperate to visit families, for instance.

I do get a little annoyed at people who have been self-righteous during lockdown who are now planning trips, but there it is.

 

[Sasaferrato]

Not disapprove, but I think that they are taking a hell of a chance in these very uncertain times.

 

[Espresso]

I can't say I disapprove, but neither can I muster up much sympathy for the people I see being interviewed on the news complaining about the cost of the tests or having to quarantine.

I would like to go abroad on holiday. I would like to go and visit family and friends in foreign places. But I'd also like ten million quid. I won't die if I don't get those things and so I will just have to keep plodding on and make do without them.

 

[Yossarian]

Absolute shower of shit in government, just come out and say all travel is off rather than opening and closing places, fucking peoples' plans up at great cost, financially and mentally. Additions to the green list yesterday included Pitcairn Island, Diego Garcia and Antarctica, ffs. Taking the absolute piss.

Diego fucking Garcia? They might as well add Guantanamo Bay to the list.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Diego fucking Garcia? They might as well add Guantanamo Bay to the list.

Maybe all the people who were kicked out are allowed back now?

 

[planetgeli]

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[scifisam]

Somewhat disapprove, depending on where they're going and why. I mean, I'm also being tortured by ads for sandy beaches and warm seas, but it's just not worth it.

 

[Supine]

If the EU start demanding 10 days quarantine for arrivals from UK that could royally screw up a holiday. Buyer beware! Way too risky for me this year.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

If the EU start demanding 10 days quarantine for arrivals from UK that could royally screw up a holiday. Buyer beware! Way too risky for me this year.

It's likely to be by country, no? Not EU-wide. A Bulgarian friend of mine is pinning her hopes on the fact that the Bulgarian government is such a bunch of cunts who have mismanaged everything so badly that they won't get it together to impose restrictions - currently it's two jabs and you're in.

It's not looking good for those who have medical reasons not to be vaccinated, though.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

It's likely to be by country, no? Not EU-wide. A Bulgarian friend of mine is pinning her hopes on the fact that the Bulgarian government is such a bunch of cunts who have mismanaged everything so badly that they won't get it together to impose restrictions - currently it's two jabs and you're in.

It's not looking good for those who have medical reasons not to be vaccinated, though.

It is by country, Spain & Greece won't do it as they want the £'s, their rates will go up as they did last summer. Merkel called for all EU countries to do it, that weaselly little runt Macron came out later in agreement, even though France remains open to fully vaccinated people from the UK.

 

[2hats]

It's not looking good for those who have medical reasons not to be vaccinated, though.

Or those who have been vaccinated but have developed poor to no immune response, particularly if they don't realise it.

 

[AnnO'Neemus]

Individual circumstances are more nuanced that that. I already know that summer will be a long haul, my autistic boy will be up hours before anything is open, and my 6 year old is hyper-intelligent and needs stimulating from 6am until 9pm, or just goes nuts. The chance of a week or two where the weather is guaranteed to be good enough for them to play in a pool all day, is the only respite we'll get. We don't have anyone else who can handle them, no-one who even babysits., now the lady who could has got a full time job.

I've had both jabs and if allowed we'll be away at the end of August. If we can't, we can't, but I won't feel bad if we can

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[Bahnhof Strasse]

Oh noes, Pitcairn saw a surge in bookings when it was added to the green list last night but look...