Do you disapprove of people who are planning an overseas holiday this summer?
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
UK numbers are the highest, but the UK is testing massively more than elsewhere. I expect Burkina Faso's numbers are quite low for the same reason Germany's are.
But this highlights the big risk with travel, if you test positive whilst away. If fully vaccinated you don't need a test to enter the UK (or most European countries), but if you have a positive test of course you must not travel, so do you bin the positive test?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Looks like stickers, certainly not real blood.
bimble
floofy
Yeah. She’s been saying she wishes she hadn’t chosen to do the test or hadn’t told anyone the result & just laid low, but she’s not an arsehole so she did. As you say, this is the real risk with travel, and I’d not even thought about it.
Our hospitalised covid patients numbers are many times higher than Germany Italy spain etc, that’s not testing that’s just covid.
elbows
Well-Known Member
Germany is not doing as many tests as the UK but we can check other data to get a sense of whether part of the reason for that is because their outbreak isnt as large as ours. Amount of testing in the UK has varied compared to EU countries, but the data from each country still tends to give a real indication of the state of each countries outbreak too.
For example their weekly hospital admission numbers are much lower than the UKs.
Via Coronavirus (COVID-19) Hospitalizations - Statistics and Research
Although when I look at what the recent number of covid patients in intensive are using the same site, the numbers for Germanys are higher than the UKs. So it is sensible to peer behind the data and figure out what the story might be with that, eg they have a different standard of care/criteria for admission to intensive care/different data methodology for what counts as a intensive care covid case (eg wording of UKs figures is actually 'number of patients in mechanical ventilation beds').
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Thats what I thought, they are all exactly the same (though handed left right), but why the feck would you put stickers that look a poor attempt at bloody footprints on the floor?...........to direct Zombies?...its bizarre
Its not a fucking morgue is it?
elbows
Well-Known Member
All I can really say is that the numbers on the daily dasboard are described as number of patients in mechanical ventilation beds. I suppose in theory some of those patients could be in those beds without actually being on full mechanical ventilation, but I dont have the means to explore that possibility further.
Other data that receives much less attention is available via certain other sources. For example the Intensive care nation audit and research center has some very detailed reports with all manner of figures in them.
ICNARC – Reports
ICNARC - Intensive Care National Audit and Research Centre. Quality data for quality care.
bimble
floofy
i like to think i'm quite a brave sort of person but friend just said that breakfast was delivered in a plastic bag hung on the wall outside where she was instructed to go retrieve it after whoever brought it had left, and then, then, it contained bread roll & one small sachet of bloody DECAF instant coffee. that would be it for me i'd probably cry when i saw it was decaf.
I'm not going anywhere without learning first what the consequences might be of testing positive whilst there.
I'm not going anywhere without learning first what the consequences might be of testing positive whilst there.
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I would have thought that, in a country like Spain, giving someone decaf coffee would have been edging close to being a human rights issue
Not a good deed though eh? The bare minimum really.
klang
klang
are they they foot prints of the damned ones who crawl out of the empty beds at midnight?
2hats
Dust.
The Moroccans disapprove this autumn.
Morocco bans British visitors due to soaring Covid rates
Morocco bans British visitors due to soaring Covid rates
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Misleading headline.
Morocco bans direct flights from UK, Germany & Netherlands. Morocco still accepting visitors from UK, Germany & Holland so long as they connect via Paris, Madrid, Zurich etc.
Yet again science is overlooked in favour of knee-jerking.
skyscraper101
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I'm supposed to be going to Germany next week. Starting to fret already that there'll be some sort of ban put in place just before I leave.
Why is that?
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Why is what? Morocco suspending direct flights from UK, Germany & Holland as the Covid rates in each country is so high. Why they are still allowing people in from these countries so long as they've coughed their Covid over France or Spain first is a mystery though.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It's a right bastard as 1/2 term starts this weekend and Morocco is a very popular spot in October, most flights were pretty much sold out and now all those holidays are lost.
That was my thinking. Wondered if France or Spain had stricter travel restrictions/regulations
Guessing wealthy travellers can have a night in Paris or Milan before spreading over to Morocco.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
You don't even need a night anyway, the new rules state specifically that you may connect from the UK, Germany or Holland, so something like these are fine...
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I guess the issue here is the growing international perception is that the UK is "xxxx country" now.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
Have waited to go away but now made it to Crete. A load of stress checking all the rules but remarkably easy & relaxed, not even an lft on arrival. It wasn’t busy either even though it’s half term. The picture is changing so perhaps this is just temporary window.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
Booked a trip to visit my mum in December, I didn't realise you still need to get a 2nd day test.
Who are the good, the bad and the ugly in paid for test suppliers then?
Who are the good, the bad and the ugly in paid for test suppliers then?
Saffy
Under the duvet..
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to ask on or not but does anyone know what the deal is with coming into the UK from another country?
My sister hasn't been back to the UK for 2 years and has had the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. She's got the paperwork to say she's had it but is there anything else which might cause a problem?
My sister hasn't been back to the UK for 2 years and has had the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. She's got the paperwork to say she's had it but is there anything else which might cause a problem?
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
As long as it is not from a red list country only a paid for day 2 covid test the reference of which needs to go on the passenger location form. Current guidelines are here.
Johnny Doe
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